The Cloud over the Furys

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by MagicAlex, Jul 8, 2017.


  1. MagicAlex

    MagicAlex New Member Full Member

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    I believe that the majority of the elite fighter use some kind of PEDs and that PED use is the elephant in the room of professional boxing and it has been for decades. Speaking as a big fan of both Fury's I accept (without judgment) that both are likely to be using something and both it appears (perhaps unfairly) have been targeted and caught (singled out).

    Ukad charged Tyson and Hughie Fury with the "presence of a prohibited substance" in June 2016, 16 months after traces of the banned substance nandrolone had reportedly been found in urine samples given in February 2015.

    The June 2017 hearing was halted owing to UKAD's concerns surrounding a “potential conflict of interest” on its panel. Apparently, this panel has not yet reconvened. I assume that means both fighters are still banned/suspended/unlicensed.

    Does anyone have an update on this situation? Or even a clear explanation? What conflict of interests? Why is there an ongoing delay? How is this justifiable?

    Tyson appears to be still banned. Hughie’s situation is even less clear. He appears to be suspended or banned and yet he keeps arranging fights and then with days to go they are cancelled or downgraded. The first Joseph Parker fight was cancelled (an apparent “injury”) last minute and the fight last night suddenly became an “exhibition”.

    Now I assume the fight became an exhibition not because of the risk of the WBO removing the mandatory status (as is being suggested) but because in some respect Hughie is in fact still banned/suspended?

    It seems like they (team Fury) are setting up fights to see if they get a legal challenge and when they do they are forced to back down and cancel/downgrade. Does anyone else agree? Personally then, it seems unlikely that the Joseph Parker fight will happen anytime soon, and certainly Dillian Whyte (Matchroom) seems to share that view.

    I’d love to see both Fury’s back in the ring as soon as possible and believe both can become heavyweight champion.

    Keen to hear ANY answers
     
  2. tdf1974

    tdf1974 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    meanwhile Povetkin is fighting for belts after being tested positive twice in a year
     
  3. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    SOB Ward's back told on him.............PED's are getting worst every fight, but not all boxers use them. SOB can always get away with cheating no matter what he does, others not so lucky...........
     
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  4. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have no idea whatsoever why Hughie and Tyson Fury do not just get a Baltic boxing union licence and fight under that.

    The British boxing authorities are politically motivated in screwing them over, and harming their careers, by deliberately drawing out the drug cases against them.

    If Tyson and Hughie Fury want to fight, its really easy. Just tell the British boxing authorities to do one, and fight under another body like the Baltic boxing union for example.

    Its almost like they are so badly organised that they are not able to just to get on with their careers and freeze out the British boxing authorites who clearly have a hard-on for them and want to see them rot.


    In life when someone has a hard-on for you, you freeze them out or cut them off. The Furys need to do that ASAP and stop pretending that they can reason with these idiot freemasons.
     
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  5. pow

    pow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It was conflict of personal or business interest of someone on the panel. Apparently.

    Neither are banned by UKAD, Tyson is suspended by the BBBoC and does not have a licence to box. Hughie has a license to box and is not suspended at present.

    There is a court case bought about by Hennesey sports and the Fury's regarding defamation of character and loss of earnings due to the charges being leaked to the press and also being charged in retrospect despite saying no further action would be taken against them at the time trace amounts were found.

    Hughie is not banned, the charges have not been determined as the hearing has not concluded yet.

    It's against WBO rules.

    Hughie has been out of the ring for 18 months. These fights were a tune up.

    I would trust what Mr Whyte says about as much as I would a Fury.
     
  6. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The whole situation it appalling to be honest. All partys have been an embarrassment
     
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  7. Erik

    Erik Well-Known Member Full Member

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    They are all on it. When Wlad fought AJ you were looking at two guys juiced to the gills. Anyone who thinks otherwise is seriously naive.
     
  8. MagicAlex

    MagicAlex New Member Full Member

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    But what was the conflict?

    really?

    and this is causing the delay?

    really?

    OK

    Why has Hughie been out for 18 months - coincidental injuries or something else?


    He is positioning himself like he is convinced that Hugie will pull out.
     
  9. pow

    pow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'ts usually a business or personal connection to one of the defendants.

    Yes

    Yes, although it now looks like UKAD are buying time themselves with this 'conflict of interest'.

    Yes

    Recovering from illness and back problems. Well documented in the press.

    The guy is desperate, has been calling out every belt holder over the last few weeks.
     
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  10. jm2729v

    jm2729v Active Member Full Member

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    C'mon guys admit 90% of this is that idiot Tyson Fury's fault. The guy does the impossible then goes on a racist tirade abusing everyone and then asking for sympathy and respect because of depression...

    I see the appeal in a straight talking "funny" guy like Fury but at the same time is he worth your support??
     
  11. Beez

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    I am not a conspiracy theorist, So I have a hard time believing that this is all just a move to take the fury's out of the ring... especially when it also seems the fury's do so much to ruin their own reputations that they dont need anymore help from anyone else.

    However, The main problem with all of this is the utter lack of transparency. Everything is guess work because UKAD/BBBofC and the furys have let all this drag on behind closed doors and a complete lack of real solid information so no one comes out of it well.

    There needs to be a review on this whole process and need more transparency in the future. You hear selective bits from FW, bits from Peter Fury... bits officially or unofficially leaked to the press and its all smokes and mirrors.

    Just also... I heard the main difference and why Hughie can fight and Tyson is because Tyson not only tested positive like Hughie but he also refused 1 (maybe 2 cant remember) random drug tests.
     
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  12. lawslaw

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    No it was because HF couldn't have a fight in between being named the mando, or he would lose the status.

    I actually said that would happen on the forum within a few hours of the fight being announced. Seems Team Fury are too stupid to realise though and it took them and fish eyes a few more weeks to wake up to reality.


    Doesn't work like that and the situation has already come up when TF said he was going to get an Irish license.

    The belt alphabet organisations said he would not be santactioned for their belts so long as he was suspended by the BBBoC and with multiple drug charges over him.

    That is why people are wrong to presume just because a Lux license was granted Haye v Chisora, same can happen for Fury. Can't, different cirumstances.
     
  13. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    What's he said that was racist?
     
  14. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    You what ?
    He did this when ??
     
  15. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    He could probably get a Luxembourg license, if he wanted .... but only if that guy that is the Luxembourg Boxing Commission still exists.