The correlation between the rise in "Boxing skill" and the decline of Boxing itself.

Clinch fights are complete snoozefests...it's painful to watch.
Should definitely be punished just as much as headbutting and low blows.

 

I don want to see clinching removed from the sport but it should be used when necessary to recover not as a means of avoiding someone hitting you back.

It is against the types of boxing. Personally I think it should be treated in a similar way to spitting out your gum shield.

 

every fighter has his style which he feels most comfortable with, some are dirty and boring, some are eye-catching and fun, clashes of styles are what makes the sport intriuging

 

it shouldn't, but clinching (not excesive holding, there's a big difference) is a skill dating back to the days of Ali and earlier

Ward needs to clinch in order to tie up and wear his opponents down, it's his style and it's his right to use it (as long as the rules allow it)

 

Agreed! Yet they seem to think he is some master technician.

 

Clinching is a skill the same way that hitting a guy low while the ref is on the other side is a skill.

 

The thing is, while Wlad is like a wrestler in some fights, he's almost clinchless in others. He's very inconsistent in his clinching. It depends more on what his opponent do. Tall or mobile opponents= very sporadic clinching.

 

So what

He uses clinching as a weapon when its favorable

Which is exactly what this thread is about

 

The winner forces the loser to fight the fight the winner wants to fight. Tie him up. Break. Back at range.

 

:huh

Povetkin fight obviously

Most fights where hes against shorter guys he clinches a lot

 

against peter, byrd even was clinching a decent amount against Pulev before he blasted him out just to name a few

Are you trying to say that Wlad doesn't clinch a lot?