The Cross Guard and its users

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Bumnard_Hopkins, Sep 13, 2021.

  1. znalniaskas

    znalniaskas Member Full Member

    Nov 24, 2013
    Yeah, the elbow is probably the only option you have when it comes to blocking, but ducking is always a good idea, if you can't duck under the hook you still reduce the distance that your elbow has to travel.
    To me the cross arm guard is a specific tool that works well for a certain type of fighter, guys who have a good jab and are great at fighting at close quarters, you can smash your elbows into your opponents forarms or bicepsses if he wants to clinch.
    That said, it is a limited tool that works well for a certain style, you can't really counterpunch when you're using it.
  2. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Apr 19, 2010
    them days are over for me
    fortunately / unfortunately
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  3. Bumnard_Hopkins

    Bumnard_Hopkins Burger King banned Full Member

    Jul 13, 2021
    The lead left hook is so fast, I don't think anyone can duck quickly enough from an upright position to dodge consistently.
    Even a pull-counter to a jab requires far less movement compared to outright ducking.
  4. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Oct 4, 2016
    Remember ,,,to keep your front foot on the outside and hit her with a straight right.
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  5. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Addict Full Member

    Dec 5, 2010
    Seems like a high energy style that can get dominated by a jab and especially by someone who can effectively hook off the jab. If you're meant to duck or fade every single left hook, your opponent can manipulate you with feints very effectively.

    This style sort of disappeared from the HW's in the 80's and 90's from what I can tell, which, perhaps by no coincidence was around the time that every single HW #1 started having a very, very good jab
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  6. RealDeal

    RealDeal Active Member Full Member

    May 2, 2009
    A combination of having really good reflexes for his age and circling to the left (or to the right against southpaws) so that he was moving away from the hook and had more time to react when they did throw it.
  7. N17

    N17 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Feb 16, 2013
    I appreciate the sound technical advice :thumbsup:
  8. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Boxing Addict Full Member

    Oct 12, 2010
    Archie Moore
    Joe Frazier
    George Foreman (when he made a comeback)
    Ken Norton
    Gene Fullmer
    Bert Cooper
    Miguel Cotto
    Tim Witherspoon
  9. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot El gran campeón Mexicano Full Member

    Mar 5, 2012
    I thought he did back in the day didn't look it up
  10. Bumnard_Hopkins

    Bumnard_Hopkins Burger King banned Full Member

    Jul 13, 2021
  11. Philly161

    Philly161 "Fundamentals are the crutch of the talentless" Full Member

    Oct 25, 2020
    I cant really think of anyone using it in the past 20 years regularly I think it's out of style. Philly shell still gets used.
  12. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jan 13, 2021
    Azumah Nelson used it at a point against Pernell Whitaker but obviously it wasn't his main guard.
  13. TipNom

    TipNom Active Member Full Member

    Jun 19, 2019
    Riddick Bowe used it
  14. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Full Member

    Jun 9, 2007
    Duck it
  15. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Full Member

    Jun 9, 2007
    Bennie Briscoe
    Curtis Parker
    James Toney along with his shoulder same with Henry Hank
    Max Bear used a version
    Thing is you can find alot of guys in the past that used it just not as pronounced as Norton who I think took it to a very high level.
    Hopkins would use the right hand up in a cross pattern alot too