The Cut That Changed It All

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Fab2333, Nov 8, 2008.


  1. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    First off I must say congrats to Calzaghe, for the W. I still dont think 2 much of him as a fighter. Im not gon pull the in their prime cards, cuz **** it didnt happen so ima leave that there. I just re watched this fight.
    Roy you my fav fighter but man if you not gon throw punches in a fight then its time to hang em up.

    Roy lost that fight more than Calzaghe won it. I just re watched it, outside of the one shot that Calzaghe landed to open up Roy. Roy didnt do anything to help himself, he barely threw anything, and Calzaghe just outworked him.

    Be4 the cut happened Roy was starting to get into a rythm, he started landed a little more. re watch it and you will see, and after the cut happened. It was like desparation set in, he was never cut be4 ever so im guessin he paniced. Roy barely threw ANY punches from this point further.
    He basically didnt do anything 2 help himself, Calzaghe just flurried him 2 a lop sided decision.
    Whats sad about this is that Calzaghes claim 2 fame will b beating to past their best legends. Roy had nothing left, he kept tryin even though he was outmatched.
    Calzaghe loss w/e respect I had 4 him by the way he carried himself, dude was wooping RJ fine. But dude is gon show him up like that and really feel good about himself for beating a 39 yr old.
    I had no problem with Calzaghe tryin 2 beat RJ 2 a pulp b/c thats wat he is suppose 2 do, but 2 do it like that, when he knows and every1 that understand boxing knows, RJ was outmatched, and most were hoping he could win.

    RJ you were a great champ man, clearly 2nite you didnt have it.
    Thanx 4 all the great fights
     
  2. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Roy already needed a KO to win once they cut was formed, sorry.

    You say 39 like its some huge number, Joe is 36, 3 years.

    The hypocrisy of a ****ing RJJ fan, who made a career out of showboating, bitching and whining about showboating, is hilarious, he deserved everything he got tonight.

    What all of RJJ's opponents deserve to be showboated, but when its him himself in there getting HUMILIATED, oh its such a crime against humanity.

    Go cry into your pillow.
     
  3. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    when did Roy Jones show boat on a fighter that was waaay past his prime?
    I dont have an issue with showboating, but dont make it seem like you out here beating on the best Roy jones.

    Thats like Kobe beating Michael Jordan in a game of basketball now, and actually thinkin he beat the best MJ.

    Calzaghe beat RJ up, theres no disputing that from me, but like i said you get a chance 2 re-watch the fight.
    After the cut Roy was out of it.
     
  4. Shotgun

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    I guess showboating against overmatched journeymen like Ricky Frazier, David Telesco and Glen Kelly was the epitome of class
     
  5. DaHead242

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    Roy was out of it way before the cut.
     
  6. The Mighty Bolo

    The Mighty Bolo Active Member Full Member

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    I went with RJJ in this fight, but he was getting his ass kicked before the cut. His only excuse is he signed the bout agreement.
     
  7. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    RJJ showboated men who never had a ****ing prime, it was like Micheal Jordan showboating a laker girl in most of his "fights" against construction workers, taxi drivers, and perennial losers.

    RJJ made a career out of being a clown, he deserves to be clowned, beaten, and embarrassed.

    Check, Check, and double check.
     
  8. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    no he wasnt man, im tellin u rewatch the fight. The round be4 the cut happened, RJ was landing shots, that cut changed w/e lil momentum RJ was startin 2 gain. I watched it on HBO and on Sentanta, even he commentator on sentanta said it was a momentum changer, the cut shot im talkin, b/c it seemed like RJ was landing some shots.
    If you rewatch it, be4 the cut he was still very competitive
     
  9. Beebs

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    RJJ was in this fight for the first minute, thats it, thats all.

    pretty Sure he needed a KO on the scorecards to win at the time of the cut, or at least a complete shutout (much like he received in the 35 minutes of boxing.)
     
  10. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    Matter of fact yall right, my issue aint even the showboating, its the whole feeling part after, that I described, you beat dude and you feel that you really beat the real roy jones. Disregard the showboating part.
    Thats my issue, the fans or the naive ones let me say are the ones that i dotn understand.
    Me personally, in n e thing I wanna beat some1 at their best, granted RJ signed the papers and calzaghe's job is 2 come in and fight, so i dont care about that. But i wouldnt feel like I just accomplished somethin GIGANTIC, from beating some1 that every1 knew was past it, is wat im sayin
     
  11. Fab2333

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    re-watch it objectively man. I noticed when I watch a fight 4 the 1st time, the 2nd time I see more things. Watch the fight over, 2 me RJ gave the fight away the cut f'd him up im tellin u. When you get a chance 2 rewatch it you will see, Calzaghe was throwin a lot of punches, they werent landing. THe cut shot was THEE ONLY HARD SHOT HE LANDED the whole fight Beebs. I watched it 2wice, and I waited 2 see if he landed anything else. Be4 the cut Rj was competitve. Im tellin you watch it again
     
  12. Beebs

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    Joe already accomplished everything there is to accomplish, the fact that RJJ is 3 years older than him doesn't mean ****.

    Joe C is the best SMW ever, period.
     
  13. Beebs

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    Its a matter of math.

    By the time the cut happened, he was so far down on the cards he needed either a KO or a shutout. So even if your cockeyed theory is true, was the "momentum" swing so hard that it was going to go from an absolute destruction/11 round 2 minute shut out, to the complete other way and RJJ was going to either KO him or win ever second of every round if not for 1 cut?
     
  14. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    How can you make that judgement and they never fought at SMW when they were both at their bests.
    Like seriously
    and 3yrs in boxing is a hell of a difference. mayb not with a 24 and a 27yr old.

    But with a 36 yr old who was never hurt, RJ has more fights under his belt, put his body through more stress. It makes a world of a difference.
     
  15. Fab2333

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    The cut happened in the 6th right? if im not mistaken, Roy clearly won the 1st round. I think calzaghe won the 2,3,4
    Roy got the 5th round IMO. the 6th round the cut happened. How exactly did he need a KO 2 win