the death fo Ali,Frazier etc.

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  1. DocDevil

    DocDevil Member Full Member

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    Sad to hear of the Passing of Ali age 74..Frazier dies at 67,Ingemar Johannson dies at 76 Patterson at 71.All had health problems.Willard made it to 86,Dempsey 87,Sharkey 91 and Schmeling 99.Any theories on why these Champions from the early 1900's lived so long.The protection or the training for them wasn't better.
     
  2. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No steroids just healthy living, running every day and physical activity. Not magic just the superhumans among us living to the best of their ability.
     
  3. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Are you crazy? That was THE PED era lol. 50's-90's were rife with it.
     
  4. JohnThomas1

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  5. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Rather than just a few examples we'd have to see more stats right across the board from both eras.
     
  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Just random. Some people are long lived, some people aren't. And when just talking about champion, the sample size is so small even statistic anomalies are meaningless.
     
  7. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    think you are just picking names to fit your argument dude. plenty of that generation died in their 60s etc.
     
  8. DocDevil

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    Just picked the heavyweight champions from Willard to Sharkey.Obviously,Max Baer was quite young.I just was making a point,the last four heavyweight champions to pass on,didn't live long healthy lives.Ofcourse it will be quite some some before,Foreman,Holmes, Tyson etc will reach 80 years old.
     
  9. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lots of past greats became hopelessly punchy later on in life. Pep, SRR, Walker, too many to list. The brain is a fragile organ. Hard punches do great damage that generally does not rear its head to way later in life.
     
  10. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Some of Ali's surviving opponents are in their 80s and even 90s. Longevity isn't an era thing, it's largely determined by genetics. Just like some guys can have long careers absorbing a ton of punishment and not have problems in retirement while others are punchy after a couple hard fights.
     
  11. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Nobody faced the kind of gauntlet Ali did

    Liston 2x
    Frazier 3x
    Foreman
    Quarry
    Shavers
    Chuvalo
    Holmes

    Add the terrible parkinsons disease to the equation, and it's a miracle he made it to such an age.
     
  12. Pete47

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    To reach a Long life has to do with genetics, too.
     
  13. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    The average age of the deceased heavyweight champs is 65.5years the average life expectancy for a male world wide is now 67years.Seven champs did not reach 60.
     
  14. Unforgiven

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    It's a testament to his mental strength, will and determination.
     
  15. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Agreed. Louis died at around 68. Charles died in his 50's. Fitz died in his 50's. Jeffries was around 70. The list goes on and on.. Max Schmeling was a rare case of a man living to the near age of 100 but also not surprising. He was known for taking good care of himself. He was very wealthy and had good health care and wasn't a terribly large man, which in truth, bigger men tend to die younger. Also, in Muhammad Ali's case he suffered from a degenerative disease for decades.. Dying at 74 isn't something that should come as a shock. I dont' know what the world wide mortality rates are as they vary from country to country. But in the US, the statistical average for male mortality is around 76 years of age.