The debate on 24 hour weigh-ins

How many of these weight cutters actually go on and beat decent fighters?

Look at Ortiz for example...... the best guy he's beaten is Berto, who's not that good. When Maidana wouldn't just fall over he quit, and when Floyd made him look a bit silly he tried fouling himself out of the fight, couldn't even do that properly.

They're alright beating opponents that are a division or two below them, but someone with skills will always beat them..... unless the skilled man isn't particularly durable.

 

So it's good because it allows **** fighters a better chance? Mong.

 

I don't understand why they originally deviated from same day weigh ins?

Pacman today is considered a small ww. In reality he weighs just within the divisional limit.

Ww fights like berto v ortiz, with both men coming in as a middleweight just defeat the objective to me.

 

The biggest danger is coming in dehydrated. They want to remove the need to do that.

 

there should be minimum and maximum weights that are monitored throughout the buildup, weigh in and after the weigh in.

For example for a 147lbs fight the max weights would be.

4 weeks out - 167lbs
2 weeks out - 157lbs
1 week out - 152lbs
Weigh in - 147lbs (30 hours prior max)
Check Weigh in - 152lbs (12 hours prior)

 

yes. when you consider a fighter like Mayweather, and his overall legacy, he gets heavily critasised for fighting smaller men. but he is always outweighed significantly when they get into the ring. I think De La Hoya had 18lbs on him fight night.

 

I think Sillyman does 30 day weigh-ins, whereby the fighter has to be within 10% of the weight.

Good idea really, but it's kinda daft when they've brought that in for safety yet allow a man to put on unlimited weight overnight.

10% 30 days prior
5% 14 days prior

5% upon arrival at the arena

Sorted.

I suppose in Floyd's case he spends time working on skills rather than shedding weight. They say a good big one beats a good little one, well, a very good little one beats an average big one that's essentially cheating.

 

Yes Rob, De La Hoya is one of the smaller men Floyd gets criticised for fighting. It's the shittiness of his opposition that riles most.

 

For the safety of the sport and themselves they shouldnt be having to dehydrate themselves to make weight its just wrong and dangerous.

Fight at a more natural weight and there's no need for all that ****.

 

love to see everyone here thats critical of guys cutting weight, and then see how many think Mayweather should fight Martinez at 155lbs.

 

Only Pacquiao has a better resume in the sport today.

 

And Hopkins.

 

In an ideal world. In reality people try to gain an advantage. Check weights are pointless because one guy could be fully hydrated while the other guy is removing fluid to get down to the weight. It's best how it is now, both guys have the same time to put on weight after the weigh in and no natural 160lber has a need to be 147 in the ring.

 

The only naturally smaller man Floyd has faced in the past five years is Marquez.

I don't really give a **** whether the opponent came up in weight for a particular fight, so long as they've actually fought at that weight before or are big at their previous one.

Hatton isn't anywhere near as bad at 147 as people like to think, he just came up against a bad style matchup in Collazo having come in to the fight not in great condition and too heavy in the ring, then lost to Floyd.

Ortiz was weighing in at 140 and getting in the ring in the mid 150's - he's not a ''naturally smaller man'' by any stretch.

It's just lazy to hate on Mayweather for beating up on smaller guys, when there's far more valid reasons to criticise him (or anyone else for that matter).

A bit like Khan when there was talk of a Marquez fight. ''Oh, he's a lightweight, typical'' - conveniently forgetting that Marquez was P4P #2 at the time and would probably beat him.

Yet they'd wouldn't give a **** if it was someone fighting regularly at 140 but in the lower half of the top 10?

Strange.