The debate on 24 hour weigh-ins

Canelo Vs Alfonso Gomez is a good recent example of ridiculous size difference on fight night.

 

Weigh-ins were first moved from fight day for promotional reasons - have the weigh-in the day of the fight means you can do something at the weigh-in that can be picked up by the media as you're making the last marketing push.

 

Explained to him about a hundred times, he's just biased and loves the '0'.

 

The Hopkins/Mayweather resume debate might be worth a thread actually.

Upon closer analysis it might be closer than you might think - Floyd's early work was impressive, until he went cherrypicking.

 

Nah, it's B-Hop, we've done it loads of times, and I always go through resumes closely before making a judgement. He has a couple of good wins at 130 and 135, but nothing mind blowing IMO.

Hopkins has the best single win. Hopkins also has longevity. The only thing he doesn't have is the '0'.

 

So what makes a fighter weight drained? just shedding too much weight? you hear it often, that so and so was drained at the weight.

 

Bernard Hopkins resume is overrated...

Technically James Toney has fought and beaten better fighters, as a MiddleWeight! What James Toney did at heavyweight was immense. Overall James Toney in my opinion has a better resume!

Also Chris Eubank had 20 defences of his world title at Supermiddle Weight..?

Bernard Hopkins had 20/21 defences at Middle Weight..?

Nigel Benn, Michael Watson, WHERE better fighters than anyone who Hopkins fought during his middleweight career.

"Bernard Hopkins is overrated on resume, and ability"

He is a great fighter! but not as great as people make out.

 

It's safest for the fighters to have 24hour weigh ins, are a good compromise. You can't have fighters going in the ring dehydrated, it's a recipe for disaster. Saying 'move up a division' is all well and good but some fighters have to take fights in the division they're in for political reasons.

If you're clever with water manipulation and rehydrating with electrolytes etc you can do 10-15lbs without being drained. Cutting water before the day before the weigh in is a big mistake though. Fighters have always gained a few pounds after the weigh in anyway, bodyweight can also fluctuate without draining by about 7lbs solely based on the water level in your body, ie first thing in the morning before breakfast after a workout you'll probably be 4-5lbs lighter than after you come back rehydrate and eat

 

Completely agree, for those complaining about dehydration they should do a double weigh in, say 24 hours before and before entering the ring. If a man is at the weight for both of them it's gotta remove some of the danger.

Today a natural at boy weight is likely giving away a stone minimum at any given fight.

 

Surely i'm not the only one who thinks that's tough ****?

If a boxer is naturally a middleweight he should fight at middleweight not fukin flyweight.

Marquez and pac are both naturally the same weight yet fight a stone apart in divisions. It's ridiculous.

P.s. hopkins has a far better resume than mayweather and plenty of boxers have fought above their natural weight, jimmy wilde made a career of it.

 

My biggest problem with it is not the size disadvantages; it's the poor skill level across the board that, as a viewer and connoisseur of The Sweet Science, have to put up with.

Not much time to hone your skills when you're only training to make weight.

 

Marquez is just about a Lightweight IMO. Can't see much cutting going into that physique, has always been able to make 130 pretty comfortably IIRC.

But, because he and Pac aren't cutting, they are both honing their skills. Size disparity can be overcome when you're a skilled fighter (history tells us this, as you more than know)

 

He comes in the ring at 144 give or take... So he's either rehydrating or bulking up for just 24 hours.

I agree the skill is always overcoming of the size. Well some instances like cotto v marg, calderon v segura etc.

In general it's those like pac, floyd, hopkins who have the most success which is certainly helped by them staying at the weight.

Still it's the notion of a mw fighting at welterweight; just aint cricket.

 

You're right and great turn of phrase :good

I always thought JMM came in at about 141 I stand corrected.