Like every rational minded person I'd imagine; Groves>DeGale I'd agree with Wallet too, that's the only change I'd make to Mand's list, there's those kind of "elite" journeymen like Darnell Boone that warrant acknowledgement. Good thread.
I have a problem with these being mentioned with Froch and Khan they are Fringe class imo. Peter Buckely, John Baguley etc are levels above the damn Latvians we are seeing brought over here as you said earlier :good
I have Barker at World Class as you could easy put Sergio Martinez in with the Elite and Macklin quite cleary beat Sturm on my card by 2 Rounds...:good
Macklin deffo beat sturm so I will give you that mate. Macklin beats Barker whom is fringe imo. The middleweight division is getting better at the mo so it will be clear who is what very soon. Cheers for reply :good
Great Replys Cheers Lads, As for Tomato cans i didn't even think of them really . Good points though!
Im not sure mate, both have won world titles and are mixing it with world ranked fighters, Id put them in with the World class bunch, as I would do Hatton and Calzaghe in the era before them?
JMM is a strange one. I personally would put him in the elite category as well, even though he lost to both Pac and Floyd, he has achieved enough to warrant that place IMO.
I meant Barker and Macklin aren't world class mate. Froch and Khan are world class as both are in top 2 of division if not the best. I think you got mixed up too. I agreed with your point. :good exactly.
I stand corrected, Iv'e just re read it and see what you meant atsch I humbly apologise Been a long weekend :good