The definitive PBF and Margarito thread to end all threads

Pimp C · Sep 25, 2008

RingKing said:

No, I don't think you are aware of it since you say that isn't an excuse. However, when Void Gayfeather turned down his career high payday at that time, you came running to his defense. Why the double standard?

As far as coming up with something of substance, I did. You just failed to comprehend it or are refusing to acknowledge it. Whatever the case may be, I posted the interview for all to see. It will be up to the individual to take what they want from that interview.

Bottomline is this. Of the last seven opponents Gayfeather fought, six of those were recognizable names such as Hatton, ODLH, Baldomir, Judah, Mitchell, and Gatti (7-0). Out of all those, I would pick Margarito to either KO or get a UD against them at 147.

The last seven opponents Margarito fought were as follows: Cotto, Cintron, Johnson, Williams, Clottey, Gomez, and Cintron (6-1). If Gayfeather were to have fought the same bunch, excluding say Johnson or Gomez, and you substituted Margarito for them, I would be more than willing to bet that Gayfeather's "0" would go. Who would have had a good chance at beating him? In no particular order, it could have been Cotto, Williams, Clottey, or Margarito. As a matter of fact, I would even pick Margarito's opponents to have beaten the bunch that Gayfeather fought with the exception of DLH.

How's that for substance? :good
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I wouldn't say that considering PBF would be the favorite over all of them and rightfully so. You also fail to mention Margo's size adavantage he shares at 147 and that PBF fought Oscar at 154 why can't Margo go back up to 154 and avenge his loss to Santos? Why can't he avenge his loss to Williams? The fact is PBF already made a name for himself long before coming to WW an ATG even if he had not fought at WW his wins there and higher just add to his legacy. Margo is just starting to make a name for himself and has a lot of work to do if he wants to catch PBF and avenging his losses would be a good start.

Pimp C · Sep 25, 2008

boxingmegafan92 said:

I agree with you, Margo's height is 5'11, of course is easy to beat guys at WW when you are almost 4" taller than them. When he fought Santos he almos got KTFO in the first and after the fight before the decision he told Santos that he had won the fight, that was only at 154... imagine him fighting a big bomber and a prime fighter in Kelly Pavlik.
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And that's exactly the point I'm trying to make. Can you imagine him facing a guy like Abraham even though Margo's 2 inches taller than him standing and trading? He would get sent to the hospital. I would love to see how great his chin and how brave he is when he's facing guys his own size or greater.:yep

Hatesrats · Sep 25, 2008

R.I.P. Floyd's Boxing career he is no longer relevent.
he can't compare to any fighter anymore.

RingKing · Sep 25, 2008

boxingmegafan92 said:

I agree with you, Margo's height is 5'11, of course is easy to beat guys at WW when you are almost 4" taller than them. When he fought Santos he almos got KTFO in the first and after the fight before the decision he told Santos that he had won the fight, that was only at 154... imagine him fighting a big bomber and a prime fighter in Kelly Pavlik.
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Were you one of the Taino's who was saying Cotto was going to KO Margarito, and then had to eat crow when Cotto QUIT?

SANTOS rocked Margarito. He didn't come close to KMTFO. I guess you missed the round in which Margarito had Santos on ***** St. and was working him over as he did Cotto. Too bad a headbutt by Santos didn't allow us to see the end of that fight. I'm sure Santos would have pulled a Quitto...er, I mean a Cotto.

Pimp C · Sep 25, 2008

Miles5149 said:

Pimp, I don't know why you even waste your time man. You shouldn't have to defend Mayweather against these trolls. You know Yodaddy is one, and hEE LooVES to TypE liKE tHIs. Mexican Legend is good for a "Margarito TKO" without any insight because he/she lacks any boxing knowledge whatsoever. And some of the others on here know some **** but you still shouldn't have to defend him. They're just flat out haters. These are the guys that rooted so hard for De La Hoya to beat him, believed the hype and 24/7 that Hatton had a GREAT chance to beat him. And so on and so forth before that. But they continue to have their hopes crushed by Mayweather. If Mayweather were to fight and beat Margarito, most would run and hide or just say that Floyd ran the entire fight. It's ridiculous the bias of some people but that's how some **** is. They just want to see him lose. That's it plain and simple. It don't matter that WW isn't even his natural weight, if he fought Wlad and lost, they would call him exposed and a fraud. There's no way of pinning Mayweather's unbelievable talent and accomplishments into their heads, they're just haters. They'll never admit he was talented ever no matter what.
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I know...I know but some times I just got to let loose. These boys need to be checked every now and then. I find it funny as well that every PBF fight they come in with that PBF is going to lose stuff only to have their hopes crushed and yet another fighter they pin their hopes on to beat PBF. :good

Scar · Sep 25, 2008

RingKing said:

Since you are an uninformed Margarito hater, I thought I would provide you with this. I know this is going to hurt, but here it is:

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That means NOTHING, oh he called him out so he avenged that loss?, the answer is NO. We're talking about what's happening RIGHT NOW and last I remember Williams' team offered Margarito a career high pay-day which he declined. His already announced future plans don't include Williams at all as Arum already announced that Margarito will fight a half decent opponent next with Cotto fighting another and both getting a rematch mid-next year. Meaning that's half of next year already planned out and Williams isn't a part of it. :deal

Not to forget that Santos, who already beat Margarito, is offering him a rematch. Isn't Margarito the one promoted as the legacy seeking mammoth?, what's going on here?, why are the guys that beat him calling him out instead of it being the other way around?

As far as Mayweather is concerned, Margarito is nothing but the Vivian Harris of 147 for Mayweather. A man who has done nothing and is using trash talk to his advantage and the media loved it. What happened when he lost?, Mayweather was announced scared to death from Cotto and Williams. This **** is pretty obvious and planned anyway.

Scar · Sep 25, 2008

Hatesrats said:

R.I.P. Floyd's Boxing career he is no longer relevent.
he can't compare to any fighter anymore.
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Sadly his accomplishments blow out Margarito's and almost everyone Margarito faced combined. Name one fighter Margarito fought(you can include Margarito with them) or even five ALL combined that have done more than Mayweather in terms of accomplishments.

Scar · Sep 25, 2008

yodaddyboxing said:

prove this :deal
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The proof is right there for you, go ask the writer of the article for poof. The information is copied/pasted pretty much as yours.

surreal deal · Sep 25, 2008

Scar said:

Sadly his accomplishments blow out Margarito's and almost everyone Margarito faced combined. Name one fighter Margarito fought(you can include Margarito with them) or even five ALL combined that have done more than Mayweather in terms of accomplishments.
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Well Scar,if he truly has retired,i agree.One of the finest fighters of modern times mate.:deal
And thats ME saying that.:good

Hatesrats · Sep 25, 2008

Scar said:

Sadly his accomplishments blow out Margarito's and almost everyone Margarito faced combined. Name one fighter Margarito fought(you can include Margarito with them) or even five ALL combined that have done more than Mayweather in terms of accomplishments.
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It must suck talking about Floyd like he was dead...
He left peep's hanging.

Scar · Sep 25, 2008

Hatesrats said:

It must suck talking about Floyd like he was dead...
He left peep's hanging.
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No he didn't, he did pretty much all he could do in boxing and was on his way out anyway. When you can't find the motivation in a sport like boxing then you're better off out or dead in the ring. Margarito has only started with his very first major win over Cotto, he can go on and prove his self freely now, he doesn't represent Mayweather and Mayweather doesn't represent him either. Same goes for both Cotto and Williams.

Scar · Sep 25, 2008

surreal deal said:

Well Scar,if he truly has retired,i agree.One of the finest fighters of modern times mate.:deal
And thats ME saying that.:good
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:good

BewareofDawg · Sep 25, 2008

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The only difference is one guy got praised for beating a smaller man, while the other guy got ridiculed.

eze · Sep 25, 2008

Pimp C said:

For all you pussies who like to call PBF a coward school is in session...this thread is for you bitches.

PBF started his career at 130 and has moved up all the way to 154 and won a title there but no matter what he does or who he beats there's aways an excuse by his haters. When he beat the longtime champ at 130 G.Hernandez in only his 18th pro fight it was because Hernandez was done. When he stopped the late great Chico in a clinic it was because Chico was weight drained and not focused. When he fought JLC the first time injured and won JLC was robbed, When PBF gave him an immediate rematch healthy and beat him he gets no credit. When he moved to 140 to fight Gatti he was going to get Koed by a warrior. When PBF puts on the boxing display of the decade Gatti is shot and a bum. When he moved to 140 to fight Zab, PBF can't deal with the speed and power of Zab, when PBF beats him Judah is a chinny headcase. When he fights Baldo for the linear title at 147. Baldo is a legit WW he's too strong no way PBF can beat him, when he beats him Baldo is a bum who got lucky. When he moved up to 154 for his first fight in a class he had no business at to face an ATG in Oscar he was going to get KOed by the first left hook that landed, when he never gets hurt and outboxes Oscar to a win Oscar is old and shot. When he moves back down to fight Hatton before the fight was signed everyone said PBF would never fight a relentless undefeated and prime guy like Hatton and Hatton would pound him til he quit, When PBF made him dance with the ringpost then Hatton was too small and never good anyway.

Do you see the pattern here? Whatever PBF does despite moving up in weight it's never enough and his critics are always right there to make excuses. The fact is PBF has no business at 147 or 154 but still managed to win there speaks volumes about skill and greatness and it's why their hero Margo will never do it but haters won't give him his due. The man is an ATG won Ring fighter of the year in 1998 and 2007. Been in the top 10 P4P since 1998 and one of the best fighters of his era who won and retired undefeated from 130-154.

Now on to that ***** Margo. I'll still say Margo is scared to test himself against bigger men. He got beat at his own game by a bigger man in Williams at 147 and turned down a career high payday in the rematch. He got beat by Santos at 154 and ran his ass back down to 147 to fight smaller men never avenging the loss. When Margo moves up in weight and takes flush shots from Pavlik at 160 or Abraham at 160 and laughs then he's proved something until then he's a ***** and a coward like so many of you call PBF. When he moves up 5 weight classes like PBF and wins the linear championship at 168 and picks up a belt at 175 against somebody like Dawson then talk to me because until then he ain't done ****. He's just a weight draining limited ***** looking to call out smaller men who he can use his size and chin against, see the Cotto fight for reference.:deal If PBF stayed at 130 and called out smaller men like MAB and EM without ever moving up you would never hear the end of it but Margo does it and it's ok sorry not gonna fly anymore around here....not good enough.

When you call an ATG and one of the best fighters of his era a ***** and a coward it's only right for me to call a limited guy like Margo who has never challenged himself against bigger men the same. When he moves from 147 to 175 and remains undefeated while doing so holla at me until then **** off.:hi:

And with that said Pimp C strikes the match and lights the fire that finally burns ESB to the ****ing ground.:fire
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Great post. :good

surreal deal · Sep 25, 2008

Hatesrats said:

It must suck talking about Floyd like he was dead...
He left peep's hanging.
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Methinks,for all his talent,he realized he had gone into too high a weight class and retired.
I cant knock him for that(and ive knocked him plenty in the past)
With his hand problems and being expected to fight naturally bigger men,there is something gracious about his retirement....and i seldom call Floyd Gracious.

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