The difference between Ariza with May/Pac is...........

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  1. 6'4south

    6'4south Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There will be random blood and urine now that he's with Mayweather.
    I've seen several people comment on the hypocrisy of The Mayweather camp now using the services of Alex Ariza, but the last time I checked, the Mayweaher's suspicions were targeted at Pacquiao, not Ariza. But as I've stated already, the difference is there will be random blood and urine testing for this fight.
     
  2. boyschoir

    boyschoir Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ariza with Pac: a supplier of PED's thru Ariza-Smoothies :rofl

    Ariza with Floyd: S&C Coach and a masseuse :rofl
     
  3. repsaccer

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    Whoever thinks that random blood test and urine tests are a fail safe
    solution for PED's needs to have their heads examined.
    More likely, Floyd liked what he saw in Pacquiao, and wanted Ariza to
    do the same for him.

    So there's 2 possibilities: Either Ariza has revolutionary nutrition and
    training methods, or they are both on PEDs.

    I know what I believe.
     
  4. boxing_master

    boxing_master Loyal Member banned

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    but its with usada who known to cover up tests why not both usada and vada?
     
  5. repsaccer

    repsaccer Aficionado Full Member

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    Why risk having to cover up tests if you have plenty cash to pay for the
    best designer drugs out there? No tests available yet. That is how the
    world works.

    And with both fighters making as much as they are with this fight, they
    would have to be as dimwitted as a thoroughbred ***** or Pac****, to
    not get the best.
     
  6. TheDarkLord

    TheDarkLord Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not up on the latests designer PEDS although I understand EPO etc

    Are the tests fairly easy to get around? I'm guessing it's the same type stuff the 100m lads are taking.
     
  7. repsaccer

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    Historically, tests have always been fairly easy to get around. It's
    harder to do now with athletes having in and out of competition
    testing, but by no means impossible. There's enough demand for
    designer undetectable drugs and doping methods, so the supply is
    there as well.

    Anything that helps the athlete train harder, recuperate quicker, build
    appropriate muscle type easier, etc. Epo was great for endurance, and
    it still is, designer varients etc. 100m runners would take different
    drugs from endurance sporters or boxers , some are the same , to
    just be able to train harder and more often , some are different for the
    specific demands of the activity that is supported by the drugs.

    But I cannot say I am a real expert either. Just a bit of medical
    background and common sense.
     
  8. 6'4south

    6'4south Well-Known Member Full Member

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    @repsaccer

    I actually agree with you on the part about Mayweather seeing something in Pacquiao's conditioning, that may have caught Mayweather's eye. But I don't think it was just Pacquiao, it was also Maidana in their first fight. Maidana' s punch output was very high in their first meeting and although he did tire, he set a pace early on that Mayweather had trouble keeping up with.

    In terms of random blood and urine, no, I don't think its full proof, but it is a deterent at the very least. And if it puts Mayweather and Pacquiao's mind at ease (Pacquiao is also all in now) then it should be good enough for the fans as well.
     
  9. repsaccer

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    I think you're right, it's not only been Ariza's work with Pacquiao. He
    did "good" work with Maidana as well, among many others.

    However, the random blood and urine tests just ensure is that the guy
    with the best PED adviser has an edge on the physical side. I guess,
    since it was a breaking point for Floyd before, now he feels assured
    Pacquiao will not be doing anything Floyd is not doing , or doing
    better.
     
  10. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Marisa joining Floyd's team had more to do with Maidana and how the Garcia camp fired him. Floyd was being shrewd when he brought him in for the rematch. Same thing applies in this Pac fight.
     
  11. TheDarkLord

    TheDarkLord Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd did look fresher in the later rounds of the rematch :think
     
  12. TheDarkLord

    TheDarkLord Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm gonna have to do some research on PEDs.

    I'd be interested to know what kind of substances an athlete with an infinite budget would be taking.
     
  13. repsaccer

    repsaccer Aficionado Full Member

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    Good luck on that.
     
  14. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good