The difference between Mayweather and Mosley

lol!:good True dat....But Floyd did make that a thing of beauty to watch. Of course Gatti made it easy.

 

his ko% has gone down but understandably due to his hands and fighting bigger men. but he did hold back too much vs. dlh.

 

You have to remember Margarito suited him down to the ground the other night; it suited his style, a style that has become more and more set over the last few years. Mosley looked great because of it. He knew Margo would throw looping punches and this would leave his chin exposed to his short, sharp hooks.

It's like Kelly Pavlik. He's one dimensional but very good at that one dimension. It's not really a big criticism as it's better to be very good at one thing than mediocre at alot, but at the very top level and against fighters like PBF, this will hold him back.

He's either one dimensional or choosing not to use his other talents as well as he can.

 

You can call anyone a runner, but where's the proof? Name me some recent fights where he's ran?

But he did go for the KO. You have to admit that he went for the KO. How can you claim he's satisfied with going to the cards at Welter when he's gone for the KO in all but one of his WW fights?

That fight was at SWW not WW. Also Floyd was outweighed by 10+ lbs. on fight night, and they wore 10 oz. gloves that Hoya picked out for Mayweather. Pac actually outweighed Hoya on fightnight, wore 8 oz. gloves that he picked out, and was fighting a completely weight drained fighter.

You're losing me here. You're not making much sense.

What bull**** did I post?

You first claim that he's the type of fighter that's satisfied with getting a decision. However, his KO percentage and his recent fights prove otherwise. I'm not sure Mayweather would go for a KO vs. Margo, Shane, or Williams. Those guys are big, stong, and have good chins. I don't know if Floyd would be in a postion to go for a KO against those guys. However, if the opportunity was there, he would definately go for it. Against Cotto, he would break him down, and go for the KO late in the fight.

His past his very much relevant to the topic. How can you claim he's satisfied with going to the cards when he's mostly shown to do the oppposite during his career?

Didn't I make mention of his recent fights?

Of course he's not a KO machine. And most fighters let the KO come to them. You look at guys who are KO machines, they say that they don't go for the KO, they let it come to them. It's like hitting a homerun in baseball. Players don't go out looking for homeruns, they take normal swings and let it come naturally.

 

You do have a point... Mosely has been showing less demensions later in his career, but! I think that has to do with Age and him slowing a bit. With Marg.....he hasn't ever changed his style. You have to be a boxer to beat Marg b/c Tony is also very good at being a pressure fighter with a granite chin. I think Shane boxed well. I still wouldn't call him "ONE Demensional" b/c even what he showcased on Saturday would prove otherwise. He showed angles to marg, Jabbed well to the body and head, moved in and out, kept range and only faught on the inside on his terms. And he got the "F" out of dodge before too long! Shane had a great game plan. He didn't trade with Marg...he boxed him and he let his speed dictate the pace of the fight where Marg could never compete.

 

Mayweather HAS TO fight margarito or he will not be an all time great he promised him a shot and has not got it yet.

 

Victim.

Don't believe the hype.

 

Difference is 15 pounds of natural weight and 2 inches all around of thickness.

 

:good To a certain extent you are correct. not that Floyd hasn't faught ANYBODY legit or dangerous b/c he has. But Shan...Like Oscar NEVER DUCK and TRY to make fights that are complete TOSS UPS! Floyd doesn't really look for those kinds of challenges and partly b/c he is so GREAT with his talent and ability, it's hard to find anyone close to his level.

 

Oscar never ducked anyone? Vernon forrest and winky wright..this whole thread seems short sighted. Floyd didnt knock out baldomir? he was 180 coming in..and if you watch the fight shane like mayweather uses an opponents aggression against them. its the smart strategy when you cant knock an opponent out. i dont watch boxing for the knockouts, i watch it for the technical aspect. i think fight plans which is something that AM didnt come in with are too often overlooked. if you know you arent a big puncher you have to outthink your opponent. stop beating up on the little guys of the sport. this isnt MMA

 

and floyds defense isnt his legs..its the angles he uses. floyds the only boxer ive seen that has the ability to stand in the pocket and still make people miss i.e ricky hatton. he basically beat hatton at his own game. and this talk about DLH? are you serious? dlh landed only 20 percent of his punches. he won the fight on jabs?..cmon. DLH fought MM at 154 not 147...picked the gloves that MM had to wear the ring size and every other aspect of the fight and still lost. those gloves they used were pillows.

 

Dude! You have to think....if you say that then EVERY GREAT FIGHTER in their time has ducked a man or two. You have to look at all the TOUGH fighters OSCAR has faught. He can't fight EVERYONE you know. And Baldo wasn't anything close to 180 brah...but I do see your point. Just don't get carried away.

I never questioned Floyds intelligence in the ring and how he uses his oppoents aggression or offense agaisnt them. He's a natrual counter puncher. You know Floyds style and how he operates. Case in point the Hatton fight....he let hatton bum rush him and he was able to operate in close quarters VERY effectively.

I watch boxing for EVERYTHING...Knock outs included. They are excting. But I also apprecaitle the little subtle techniques that are not as visible as the FLASH that most like. I like the ring genralship, Movement, ANgles, Defense and a full array of offense. It's truly a science.

MMA is a sport with many demensions.....it's a science initself and should be respected even if its not your cup of tea. They also have great technicians and weight classes so there are not bigger men beating up on smaller ones.

 

regardless...Floyd gave the lesson to Baldomir...whats your point man? Bladerunner gets no credit in this forum...he finds ways to hate on Floyd and thats it...FLOYD WAS CALLIN FOR A NOV 4TH 2006 FIGHT WITH MOSLEY AND MOSLEY DIDN'T WANNA FIGHT CUZ HE HAD A TOOTHACHE AND A VACATION TO TAKE! GET OFF THIS FORUM CUZ U GETS NO RESPECT ON THIS MUH FU34A! :silly