The difference between Ricky Hatton and Joe Calzaghe

Oh, and with regards to Calzaghe....

He called out Ottke many, many times...but Sven would rather have pretended not to have a clue who Calzaghe was!

Furthermore, Calzaghe did not have enough to status to get the attention of RJJ...which is why I am annoyed that JC did not go after DM...which he would have been able to do as I believe the WBO has a rule where the champ from a division below instantly gets a shot at the champ at the division above should they move up in weight.

When Ottke wasn't game, this is what should've happened. JC would have got a huge name on his record as well as Jones attention had he gone up and faced Dariuz...

 

It's clearly an opinion, but one that is arguable enough to deserve qualification, as you have now done.

Here is my opinion. Hatton did beat Tszyu more clearly than Calzaghe beat Hopkins. This is tempered by two things however: Calzaghe himself was past his peak at the time he beat Hopkins, and Tszyu retired after the Hatton fight, whereas Hopkins went on to school Pavlik. I don't subscribe to the Tszyu was shot argument (no-one was saying that when he destriyed Mitchell iirc), but Hopkins win over a live undefeated rated fighter certaininly franks the form in some way.

 

What a bizzare response to a post that didn't get near to the subject of Joe Calzaghe once.

 

Or you don't fancy looking into this matter beyond a superficial analysis....it seems you ain't too sure about the details in late 2005 2006 where Ray Hatton basically admitted the Champion of the division 'wasn't ready' for Mayweather....which is why Floyd left 140 after offering Hatton the fight twice.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/4601680.stm

This link alludes to it....not in explicit terms, but I recall someone posting that link 6 or 7 months back on this board when this issue last came up.

That's not true btw, I think Calzaghe can be held to account for not going after DM....for me, that would have been a huge fight in Europe and would have most certainly given Calzaghe the status needed to challenge Jones...

For me, he should have did this when Ottke was clearly none too keen on facing Joe.

 

Instead of that essay why didn't you just write:

"Hatton has got a better attitude than Calzaghe - he chased the big fights."

It's not much of a thread really is it? It's been done to death on here already and most people, even Calzaghe's fans agree with it.

If you are going to shout down anyone who dares start talking about resume or ability why did you bother starting this lame thread when after reading that essay 99% of people agree with you anyway?

 

atsch The irony...

 

Eh?

How long have you been a boxing fan?

Mayweather called Hatton out :huh Hatton beat Kostya Tsyzu who had huge status in the US after flattening Zab Judah...

Hatton and Mayweather were in 140 at the same time...Hatton ended up with two of the belts, Mayweather with 1.

People were talking of it as the modern day Leonard - Duran....two young, in their prime fighters with vastly different styles ready to collide for the Undisputed Title at the weight....

Hatton didn't have the status.....No. Hatton didn't fancy risking the title he won only months before in a fight he probably wouldn't be favoured in....

Calzaghe should have went after DM, I've said this before. Woods worked his way into a mandatory position if I'm not mistaken by capturing the British and European Titles at that weight...

It is wholly unrealistic to have asked Calzaghe to give up a World Title and grind his way up doing the same. Silly comparison.

Furthermore, Jones and DM had all the belts so it's not like he could have picked up one of the spare baubles up there you alluded too...how long have you been following boxing?

 

:yep Calzaghe still won. He might have won ugly, big deal.

 

Well I think I may just have exposed the fact that your join date may very well relate to the length of time time you've been a boxing fan...

You say Hatton didn't have the status to challenge Mayweather...when it was Mayweather that called him out at 140....

You say that Calzaghe could have went up and won a World Title to force a fight with Jones OR beat DM....when DM and Jones had all the belts between them...

Hmmmm :yep

Furthermore, your dodging the points made to you. Don't you know that Mayweather offered Hatton the fight twice at 140 - NO DIVISION JUMPING - when they had 3 of the 4 belts between them at that weight? Get it? Hatton the ****ing man at that weight, decided against it and only went to 147 to pursue Baldomir...which I can provide a link for btw. He scuttled off after Mayweather beat him to it....only returning when circumstances suited!

Perhaps you should return after looking a bit deeper than boxrec?