The difference between Wilders 50 Mill and Joshuas 15 mill offers.

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  1. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    If UK gate is so cheap why were the most expensive tickets for Joshua/Povetkin more expensive than the most expensive tickets for Wilder/Fury. Povetkin/Joshua floor tickets were £2000 which is $2600 USD, Wilder/Fury floor tickets are only $1553 USD.

    If this fight was a Vegas fight you would be right but it's not.
     
  2. 305th

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    Ah yes, how could I forget, one of Eddie's renowned face to face meeting requests (trademark pending). A surer sign of honesty, forthrightness and transparency is very hard to find.
     
  3. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    One of your dumbest posts yet...you manage to somehow keep going down the hill ...lol


    Joshua makes over 20 million a fight now if not 20...Joshuas fights generate massive amounts why would 15 Million be in question when that's peanuts to Matchroom?

    Anyone promising 50 million let alone a Wilder e mail? Lol... is going to be in question. You have to be a real idiot not to.....

    The reason why it was questioned anyway was EXACTLY the reason it had to be and that was bc it was found out BT sports were behind it...get a grip! :duh
     
  4. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    One thing I don't get about the $50 mill offer too is what was Wilder going to get paid? Joshua was to be paid $50 mill but Boxnation wanted the world wide rights and would pay that $50 mill, that leaves no money for Wilder and the undercard. I assume the live gate would cover his purse, undercard and all running costs for the fight and promotion.

    So Joshua get's $50 mill, Wilder what ever is left after everyone else is paid from the live gate, surely that is going to be less than $50 mill, so he was basically asking for smaller fraction of the split, yet some how wants 50/50. Makes no sense to me, "pay me 50/50 Joshua or let me pay you $50 mill and I'll whatever is left!"
     
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  5. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    Not one of these fanboys asked where the 15mill came from because Eddie forks out more than that for every Joshua fight. When has Wilder been involved in a 50mill fight?

    When has Wilder been involved in a 3million fight? lol


    Wilder has a proven track record of avoiding tough fights, history matters and people remember.

    It will be added to Wilder's list of ducks which is growing pretty large these days.
     
  6. 305th

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    Indeed, Finkel and Haymon are well-known for not having two pennies to rub together.

    Proper skint, rumour has it their ring card girls double up as cleaners after the fight.
     
  7. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    I love the Wildettes version of occam's razor.

    Some could claim that the guy who fought absolutely no-one on his way up, targeted the lowest hanging fruit for almost his entire career would be the one more likely to be the ducker using the same rationale.

    I couldn't give a **** about Joshua btw and am looking forward to Wilder Fury.
     
  8. 305th

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    Are you going to address Barry Hearn talking about AJ's two-year strategy to avoid Wilder or continue to enjoy the look of your own typeface fonts?
     
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  10. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    I don't really care for Joshua much in the same way you don't really care for logic. It's been pointed out to you what's said in that interview and yet you're choosing to obsess over one aspect out of context to defend your boy toy.

    As it happens I think Joshua gets Wilder out of there in the first half of the fight. Too easy to hit, too slow to get going. But of course he has a punchers chance. The Fury fight is a weird one to pick as we just don't know where Fury is at.
     
  11. 305th

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    You don't understand the concept of context very well do you?

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  12. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Evidently better than you.
     
  13. SambaKing1993

    SambaKing1993 Don't do it Zachary! Full Member

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    Well according to Eddie at that same fishing trip, Joshua would rather fight Whyte than Wilder. Imagine the outrage if Finkel said Wilder would prefer Breazeale over AJ.

    It's not up for debate. Team AJ ducked Wilder. Fact.
     
  14. MAJR

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    Just to prove I've watched it.

    Barry Hearn: "...Eddie and Anthony Joshua would fight Deontay Wilder on September 22nd. I, personally, my advice was leave it two years because...in commerical terms...Joshua/Wilder today is a $70million fight, maybe 80, in two years time it might be $250/300million."

    So, in context, Barry says Eddie and AJ want the fight and would do it as soon as possible but he thinks that it would be better business to put it off to increase the market value.

    Later on we get this bit:

    Interviewer:"Have you had any further conversations with Shelly Finkle?"

    Barry Hearn: "No. I wouldn't unless Eddie told me to, cause he's in charge."

    In which Barry says Eddie makes the calls and he wont get involved unless Eddie asks him to.

    Then this bit:

    Barry Hearn: "I said to AJ, he asked me my honest opinion, I said if you told me you were going to retire in 6 months time I'd tell you to fight Deontay Wilder now, but if you tell me you here for the long run I'd say that fight can only get bigger."

    In which he said AJ asked for his honest opinion and he gave it.

    Barry Hearn: "Two years would be the maximum. Most likely for me would be fall 2019. I think by then, I mean Deontay Wilder's done a very good job of making himself famous on the back of all this AJ, Fury and all that, and that's good news for everybody, because no one...knew Deontay Wilder...more people will know him now, and AJ is...largely uknown in America, and in a year's time more people will know him, and that fight's an automatic on to be built, and the money is the difference betwee 350/400,000 buys on PPV in America and 1.5million. It's a collosal difference."

    Going on further to outline that the British market cant get any bigger than it is for AJ so making the American market bigger for him would be the ideal.

    This is Barry laying out the business reason why he thinks it's better to delay the fight until a later date, but even here it's not a clear two year plan as he says he favours a fight in the Autumn of 2019.

    So, again, in context, this is Barry giving his opinion on the fight while making clear that while he's offered his advice it's Eddie's calling the shots, not him, and Eddie wanted the fight sooner rather than later, and that he'd prefer the fight to happen late 2019, so it doesn't really back up your claim that AJ has a "two-year strategy to avoid Wilder".
     
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  15. 305th

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    Matchroom FC representing here I see.

    Nope, doesn't back up my assertion at all aside from Barry saying AJ asked him for advice (yeah right), then Barry telling him to let it cook for 2 years. Gee, what's happening at present? Yeah that's right it's cooking for 2 years, well whaddya know.

    Povetkin was booked in for almost the entire duration of the charade of these supposed reach-out attempts from Hearn. It's smoke and mirrors, or in your case bread and circuses.