The difference between Wilders 50 Mill and Joshuas 15 mill offers.

i dont pay much attention to negotiations
timeline that i read on talksport if there article is accurate is

the offer was made by wilder for 50 million using social media
AJ has 24 hours to agree
finkel backed up wilders offer
AJ agrees
hearn says ok but wants details

none forthcoming and mud slinging back and forth is the result

from wilders point of view he is trying to earn big money
from joshua point of view he wants to be top dog
from hearn point of view he has seen finkel and haymon the one time they were asked to fully back wulder with money in the povetkin v wilder purse bids scenario they kept there money firmly in there pockets not prepared to back there man

 

Look man. Your claim was that Barry Hearn "said they had a two-year plan for Wilder at a minimum" and that "he literally spelt out that they had no intention of fighting Wilder anytime soon as they were/are still building brand AJ."

What Barry said in that interview you posted was that Eddie and AJ wanted the fight in September but he thought would be a better decision to wait for a maximum of two year but preferably until the fall of 2019 when both Wilder and Joshua would be bigger names and the fight would make more money.

Your own evidence of a "two year strategy" debunked itself.

And what the **** you do you mean "yeah that's right it's cooking for 2 years"? It's not even been two months since that interview happened, and AJ fought Parker in March. Sure AJ's tied up to an April fight date but there's no confirmed opponent yet, there's still every chance that a fight with Wilder could be made for that date, and if not the fall of 2019 is still available and that would be well under two years. You're jumping the gun to a ridiculous degree.

 

ORLY?

"Personally, my advice was let's leave it two years".

That's what Barry said, taken verbatim from the infamous video you lot would rather now conveniently disappear.

What I'm seeing now is a desperate attempt to try and re-frame what Hearn Sr said, based on syntax, word choice, "context" and whatever else excuses you lot want to use to try and dig yourself out of admitting that the Head Shed of the Matchroom advised his son and heir apparent,aka Joshua's manager, to avoid Wilder for the time being.

"Buh, buh, that's not what he meant, buh, he doesn't make the decisions, bu context, buh you said literally" etc etc

It's better than being in black and white it's in HD. Literally.

You can try putting whatever spin on it you like.

 

Ok. This is also what Barry said:

"Two years would be the maximum. Most likely for me would be fall 2019."

Or do you only care for the one soundbite?

 

Which doesn't reflect the Summer '18 supposed "negotiations" then does it?

 

What the **** are you talking about? You brought up the bloody thing about taking the interview in context then conviently posted it time-marked just to avoid Barry saying Eddie and AJ wanted the fight in September while you blatently ignore the fact that Barry said he wanted it in the Fall of 2019. You cant complain about people bringing up the full context of an interview you posted just because it doesn't back you up as much you hope it would.

 

That wasn't your ****ing argument! You said their strategy was to avoid Wilder for two years! You're moving the goddamn goalposts!

 

> My argument was that there was proof Team Joshua ducked Wilder by referencing Barry Hearn stating TWICE on film that Wilder didn't factor in AJ's strategy for the next two years, and certainly not in the Spring/Summer of 2018 when Eddie made such a big deal of being supposedly being palmed off by Finkel and Haymon.

> I then posted timestamped links to film after being challenged, which confirmed the above.

> After posting exactly what I stated and promised, the narrative by a select few of you has now changed to trying to define and strawman the literal meaning of what I stated, as opposed to accepting that the Senior Hearn admitted on tape that they had no intention of facing Wilder for two years, which is what I originally stated.

 

There is no denying that Barry said he's prefer to build the fight for "a maximum" of two years. I've not disputed that at all.

But there is also no denying that he admitted it's not his call to make because Eddie's "in charge" and that, when pressed, he said he'd like the fight to happen in the Autumn of 2019.

My issue with you is the claim that it was a "two-year strategy" of avoiding Wilder. That interview does not back up that claim, at least not to the extent that you hoped it would, because not only does Barry say that both Eddie and AJ were interested in fighting Wilder in September of this year but he himself said he wants the fight to happen next year.

Undoubtedly Barry Hearn didn't want the fight to happen this year and told both Eddie and AJ that it would better for business to delay it so both fighters could increase their profile and their market value in the states, and this likely influenced their decisions on the subject, but the specific claim about having "no intention of facing Wilder for two year" is not supported by that interview.