The difference in an 18-Day Guaranteed Cutoff and an 18-Day Random Cutoff...

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  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    how the hell do you read into my post that I'm emotional? That I'm gonna call you racist? weird. I was neither emotional nor do I think you're a racist.
     
  2. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    I dont think so, didn't one of them get tested more than the other by 1?
     
  3. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :roll: Good ****in grief!!!


    More likely according to whom? The legions and legions of Cotto-queens on this board??? Cotto got mashed. Paul got the title. Don't Pac have that same title right now???:fire:fire:fire

    Watch out Pacdude!
     
  4. PH|LLA

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    There is no set number of testing agreed upon. Both got tested at around the same time and the USADA probably decided not to test them too close to the fight I'm guessing to avoid controversy and speculation about why one fighter lost to the other.
     
  5. NeckBreaknAiken

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    Yeah, I know.... I kinda was wanting to take that **** back after I posted it, but then I got caught up with this Cotto nonsense.. and um... you know... That subject kinda seems to always **** up my attention span...
     
  6. PNoyFightFanUSN

    PNoyFightFanUSN Larry Don't Give a **** Full Member

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    I will personally fly to vegas and punch Arum in his old man dick if he ****s this up again.

    I'm my ship's biggest Pac fan boy.I'll admit it.But there's a point where you need to use some goddamn ****ing sense.

    People that misconstrue the difference between random testing where the blood drawing just so happened to stop at 18 days out and testing where you know you won't be tested after 18 days are ****ing ******s.The whole point is that they may stop at 18 but you don't know if they'll do it again so it keeps you honest.

    That being said, if your training is tapering off within 2 weeks of the fight,there's no high intensity stuff to really benefit you if you did dope.Without opening up a can of worms about how PEDs work since no one on this site is a goddamn sports physician.

    If Pacquiao can just understand that with Shane being an admitted PED user at one point in his career supposedly no longer being blood tested 18 days out,then he shouldn't be under any more scrutiny if there's no actual reason to believe he's on anything. He should be fine.They may even stop before 2 weeks out and just keep randomly **** testing which is one of the original stipulations.that they can **** test whenever.

    **** Bob Arum.Don't **** this up twice you ****ing goon.
     
  7. grimlocked

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    It's also possible there was really a blood test a few days before the fight (as shown in 24/7 before Mosley went to Vegas) but they didn't like the outcome so they struck it out. :D

    Did you guys notice how quick (often times less than 24 hours) Tygart always comes to the rescue for Floyd and GBP?

    For example, he used to be OK with 14 days, when he said "I'm not worried about the 14-day or the 24-day blackout period, I'm worried about the rest of it. If someone's telling you that's where it fell apart, I think you've got to add the follow-up, 'Well, what kind of testing was going to happen before the 14-day or the 24-day blackout period?' The 14-day period, I'm a lot less concerned about that than what you're doing in the two months before that 14-day period".

    But when Pac said he is now OK with 14 days, Tygart has this to say: "“If you know you aren’t going to be tested within the last 14 days, you can cheat and get away with it".
     
  8. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This has nothing to do with Tygart. It doesn;t matter whose side he seems to be on. He doesn't have any power with the negotiations.
     
  9. Marnoff

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    The threat of random testing is enough that they can do that. People aren't going to chance it if they can be tested any time.
     
  10. Gander Tasco

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    An 18 day window means nothing. That gives a fighter like 11 days to juice and get some kind of unfair advantage. No ones going to do that anyway with a test after the fight, and it wouldn't provide much/if any advantage in that short frame of time anyway, let alone 14 days which leaves like a week to juice, since there is no heavy training in the last week.
     
  11. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    I actually can't believe some people still can't understand the topic of the thread.

    Just because Mayweather and Mosley's testing was stopped 18 days before the bout, it doesn't mean there was an agreed cut-off date of 18 days, nor does it mean how many or when these test were taking place. Arum may have been right about the date of the last tests, but this doesn't mean the date of the last tests was the cut-off date. The 18 days leading upto the bout...Mayweather and Mosley will have been waiting and expecting themselves to be tested, neither boxer will have risked anything illegal during those 18 days.
     
  12. Jetmax

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    Instead of making this thread you should have just emailed Arum. You're preaching at the wrong tree.
     
  13. Da Chin Chekka

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    :thumbsup
     
  14. Da Chin Chekka

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    :wtf:huh:?:patsch