The differences between the careers of Pernell Whitaker and Floyd Mayweather.

You have no idea about them so stfu

If you don't think Holman Williams is a top 80 fighter of all time you're a complete ******.

 

Where are all these so called fighters who are greater than PBF? LMFAO!!!!
Who are the rest of the best? According to the editors at Ring Magazine, this is how the rest of the top 80 shakes out.

11. Carlos Monzon

12. Rocky Marciano

13. Ezzard Charles

14. Archie Moore

15. Sandy Saddler

16. Jack Dempsey

17. Marvin Hagler

18. Julio Cesar Chavez

19. Eder Jofre

20. Alexis Arguello

21. Barney Ross

22. Evander Holyfield

23. Ike Williams

24. Salvador Sanchez

25. George Foreman

26. Kid Gavilian

27. Larry Holmes

28. Mickey Walker

29. Ruben Olivares

30. Gene Tunney

31. Dick Tiger

32. Fighting Harada

33. Emile Griffith

34. Tony Canzoneri

35. Aaron Pryor

36. Pascual Perez

37. Miguel Canto

38. Manuel Ortiz

39. Charley Burley

40. Carmen Basilio

41. Michael Spinks

42. Joe Frazier

43. Khaosai Galaxy

44. Roy Jones Jr.

45. Tiger Flowers

46. Panama Al Brown

47. Kid Chocolate

48. Joe Brown

49. Tommy Loughran

50. Bernard Hopkins

51. Felix Trinidad<

52. Jake LaMotta

53. Lennox Lewis

54. Wilfredo Gomez

55. Bob Foster

56. Jose Napoles

57. Billy Conn

58. Jimmy McLarnin

59. Pancho Villa

60. Carlos Ortiz

61. Bob Montgomery

62. Freddie Miller

63. Benny Lynch

64. Beau Jack

65. Azumah Nelson

66. Eusebio Pedroza

67. Thomas Hearns

68. Wilfred Benitez

69. Antonio Cervantes

70. Ricardo Lopez

71. Sonny Liston

72. Mike Tyson

73. Vicente Saldivar

74. Gene Fullmer

75. Oscar De La Hoya

76. Carlos Zarate

77. Marcel Cerdan

78. Flash Elorde

79. Mike McCallum

80. Harold Johnson

Source: Ring Magazine (2002)

 

What the **** are you talking about?

You know that's from 2002, right?

 

I can appreciate naming some of the pioneers of boxing but alot of those guys like Greb were great for their time. But Just because they have 100s of fights doesnt mean theyre better than Floyd. When boxing started evolving in the 60s 70s 80s 90s ect alot of those guys listed would simply be journeyman.

 

Whitaker must be rated higher than Mayweather. Because he faced tougher opposition and he has a much higher workrate. Whitaker was able to sustain his defense while throwing punches in volume.

There is just no way in hell that Whitaker goes life and death with Castillo.

Both are great fighters, but Whitaker had a little extra and more workrate. He has to rate higher. He was busier in the ring.

 

Yes I know that these fighters who you said are better than PBF careers ended way before 2002 so it's still relevant.


https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/ring-magazine-top-20-fighters-since-wwii.517791/
Best fighters since WWII

he October issue of Ring surveyed many boxing writers and historians on the greatest fighters of the Modern Era (post-WWII). They were each asked to rank the 20 greatest fighters with 1st receiving 20 points, 2nd receiving 19, 3rd receiving 18, etc... with first place votes bracketed. The top 20 is as follows (HT to chrismart83 on scene):


1. Ray Robinson - 396pts - (17)
2. Henry Armstrong - 339 - (1)
3. Muhammad Ali - 324 - (1)
4. Roberto Duran - 296
5. Joe Louis - 293
6. Ray Leonard - 258
7. Willie Pep - 246 - (1)
8. Archie Moore - 189
9. Julio Cesar Chavez - 171
10. Ezzard Charles - 164
11. Pernell Whitaker - 132
12. Floyd Mayweather Jr - 118
13. Marvin Hagler - 117
14. Carlos Monzon - 98
15. Eder Jofre - 86
16. Sandy Saddler - 82
17. Roy Jones Jr - 80
18. Rocky Marciano - 77
19. Bernard Hopkins - 66
20. Ike Williams - 55

Others receiving votes:
Charley Burley - 53
Evander Holyfield - 42
George Foreman - 41
Billy Conn - 39
Larry Holmes - 36
Manny Pacquiao - 36
Kid Galivan - 28
Salvador Sanchez - 28
Emile Griffith - 27
Jose Napoles - 27
Holman Williams - 27
Mike Tyson - 26
Joe Frazier - 22
Alexis Arguello - 20
Marcel Cerdan - 20
Carlos Ortiz - 20
Ricardo Lopez - 19
Jake LaMotta - 17
Ruben Olivares - 17
Pascual Perez - 12
Marco Antonio Barrera - 9
Oscar De La Hoya - 9
Michael Spinks - 9
Tommy Hearns - 7
Miguel Canto - 5
Bob Foster - 5
Jimmy Bivins - 4
Lennox Lewis - 4
Sammy Angott - 3

Authors and historians surveyed were: Ron Borges (Ring), Bernard Fernandez (Ring), Doug Fischer (Ring), Norm Frauenhiem (Ring), Lee Groves (Tales from the Vault), Craig Hamilton (Historian), Thomas Hauser (Author), Kevin Iole (Yahoo Sport), Matt McGrain (Historian), Clay Moyle (Author), Martin Mulcahey (Historian), Patrick Myler Author), Jack Obermayer (Writer), Adam Pollack (Author), Cliff Rold (Historian), Michael Rosenthal (Ring), Mike Silver (Author), Tim Smith (Ring), Springs Toledo (Author), Anson Wainwright (W

 

Pea also fought dumb at times clowned too much and got dropped for doing so. Pea had his fair share of close fights don't act as if he schooled everyone he fought, he didn't

 

This list was in 2002 so that's why you don't even see guys like PBF or Pac on it.

 

You've resorted to copying and pasting?

You know Tommy Gibbons fought before WW2, right? And Holman Williams and Carlos Ortiz are both there....

 

This list was discussed here previously.

And both ranked below PBF to as well and this was before PBF-Pac LMFAO!!! Not only that Gibbons isn't even ranked on the older Ring list back in 2002. You lose!!!!

 

Yeah, coz he was from before the deadline you spastic

 

None of those guys are greater than PBF

 

Not even Ray Robinson?

Every one I named was greater than Mayweather. You're just not smart enough to know why.

 

I already said you had people on your list that were greater. I had exception with 3 that I listed and a few more. Of course SRR is greater than PBF only a fool would disagree.