The differences between the careers of Pernell Whitaker and Floyd Mayweather.

Why do you think Robinson is greater? What's your rationale?

 

Who does then? Pac? Lol!!!

 

Yeah, everyone I said was greater.

 

Luf, please tell them that's it arguable to have these guys above Mayweather.

Harry Greb
Sam Langford
Henry Armstrong
Sugar Ray Robinson
Ezzard Charles
Muhammad Ali
Roberto Duran
Benny Leonard
Bob Fitzsimmons
Archie Moore

Tony Canzoneri
Barney Ross
Packey McFarland
Willie Pep
Sugar Ray Leonard
Joe Louis
Jimmy Wilde
Terry McGovern
Jimmy McLarnin
Joe Gans
Tommy Loughran
Gene Tunney
Sandy Saddler
Carlos Ortiz
Emile Griffith
Tommy Gibbons
Holman Williams
Charley Burley
Mickey Walker
Ike Williams

 

Sorry, I don't get you. Do you mean which I'd rate highest of the three, or who I'd rate higher than Pacquiao?

I'd rate all three above Pacquiao (only by 5 places or so, I have Pac early thirties and these guys mid 20s), and I'd rank them like this:

• Holman Williams
• Tommy Gibbons
• Carlos Ortiz

 

Ahh, I get you. And I agree.

 

You're top tier of names is beyond arguably imo, they're signed sealed and delivered.

In the 2nd tier, there's definitely arguments to be made but I'd struggle to justify McLarnin (I think he's comfortably bottom of his famous trio) and Gibbons (I think he's comfortably the lesser brother)

Nominations from the row are interesting as well tbh, but I have a soft spot for them so I'll let it slide.

However you left Pac off your list and he's a lock for greater fighter than Floyd.

 

Well, I have Pac above Mayweather anyway, and I have McLarnin below Canz and Ross. I also have Mike about top 40, so he's high up too.

 

How much footage of those guys actually exist? You cant rate a guy how great they are by their record. Especially in those earlier years of boxing when the same guys were fighting 10 times plus.. Just saying.