The different styles of boxing

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  1. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    The stiff jab and sharp straight right did remind me a little of hagler but also was very different. Hagler had great head movement and was very clever defensively. I haven't seen that dimension of gggs game as of yet
     
  2. scarecrow

    scarecrow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hagler to me was a boxer-brawler. He wasn't a pure boxer, he wasn't a boxer-puncher, he wasn't a pure brawler.

    He brawled with Hearns because he knew he simply didn't have the skill and speed to outbox Hearns.

    Tommy Hearns flat out outboxes Hagler in a technical fight if Hagler doesn't brawl him. Why? Because Hearns was a better boxer than Hagler.
     
  3. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Getting into a war with an atg knockout artist who is 4 inches taller than you hardly proves he wasn't a great boxer in his own right
     
  4. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    your judging haglers entire career off of 10 minutes of mayhem against an atg?

    Hearns was in that fight too. Does that make him a brawler?
     
  5. scarecrow

    scarecrow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hearns tried to actually box and move during the fight. But Hagler wouldn't let him. He just roughed him up.

    Hagler knew he had to brawl with Hearns because Hearns was the better boxer.
     
  6. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Hagler chose to brawl because he knew it was the easiest path to victory
     
  7. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Not arguing who of those two was the better boxer. They were both great but IMO Hagler chose to brawl because he knew it was the easiest path to victory
     
  8. scarecrow

    scarecrow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I hear what you're saying that Hagler was a very talented boxer in his own right. But at the highest level opposition he had to brawl because against the best boxer out there he knew he couldn't outbox him and had to brawl.
     
  9. Richmondpete

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    Hearns went right after him also. I don't think it's as conclusive as your making it out to be that Hagler needed to go for broke to beat him as if he was the inferior fighter
     
  10. Thread Stealer

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    He fought like a bull against Hearns because he had to. Hearns was great at boxing at distance and also got the most power when he had distance for that right hand and got more leverage. The right hand that devastated Cuevas and Duran came when he had distance so he could get leverage. Hagler largely pressed the fight against Leonard. 2 fights...I wonder if years from now people will watch Mayweather fight Judah and Mosley and conclude he was a fighter who liked to walk opponents down behind a high guard.

    Hagler was a boxer-puncher more than any other style I'd say. Broke guys down methodically. He liked to use lateral movement, box behind the jab, open up with combinations. As Barry Tompkins said during the first Hamsho fight, Hagler was a surgeon.

    While usually people get it right, he still often gets called a pressure fighter or brawler. I can't think of any fighter whose normal style gets labelled incorrectly than him. Interestingly, Leonard is another guy who this happens to as well. People remember the Hagler fight, the Duran rematch, his showboating and often think he was a dancer. When it comes to the first 2 Duran fights, it's sometimes said that Leonard switched from his usual style in the first fight because of Duran's mind games and Leonard's ego, and the rematch was somehow Leonard's normal style

    No. Leonard being all fleet-footed in New Orleans was farther from his usual style than his flat-footed style in Montreal. He could use a lot of movement and box on his toes, but it was the exception rather than the norm.
     
  11. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Interestingly enough, hagler chose to box sugar ray Leonard and lost a close sd where as Hearns was knocked out by a prime srl
     
  12. scarecrow

    scarecrow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hagler is better than Hearns. However you get it done is irrelevant really.

    IMO and most people's if Hagler tried to turn it into a pure boxing matchup he loses because Hearns was the better boxer.
     
  13. Richmondpete

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    I agree with everything you said here but my point is there is no shame in not being able to outbox prime Hearns. Boxer puncher is what he was. Career brawler he was not
     
  14. Richmondpete

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    I just don't see a scenario where hagler loses to Hearns. I just can't see it
     
  15. Badbot

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    Hearns also outboxed a prime Leonard. It was a great come from behind KO.