The Dirtiest Fighting HW Champ Ever

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  1. OLD FOGEY

    OLD FOGEY Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Okay. But what exactly did Daggert mean by "rabbit punching".
     
  2. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Al ask if a punch to the back of the head was fair or foul.

    And Dagget replie, No kidney or rabbit punchs, I going to call em if I do.
     
  3. OLD FOGEY

    OLD FOGEY Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Can you give me a case from the fifties in which a fighter lost points or was disqualified for hitting to the back of the head?
     
  4. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hell, I pretty sure, Tyson would have bite Holyfiled's ear off in the 50's, and they let it go. As said before they were very lax. Max Baer was backhanded MOST of his foes(OR the way it was told before the crash"The Baer ***** slap") and the most he got was a warning. The ref in ten rounds vs the Baer Schemling fight, only warn Baer like what
    ? 1 or 2 times, of couse Baer did more than that, shortly before the ko, Baer swing his arm back and forth with the German on the ropes, and no warning.
     
  5. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    The most brutally effective dirty fighter was Dempsey, who could ko a Jack Sharkey with one beaut of a sneak left while the nut-case was bitching to the referee. Remember that Dempsey once gave lessons to Max Baer in a restaurant on fighting dirty, after the decision Max lost to Tommy Loughran.
     
  6. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    BS. He elbowed Biggs, tried to hit Tubbs when he was on the floor and headbutted Williams on his way down. He hardly was desperate any of those times.

    Hell, there's an old clip of him continuing to batter an opponent even though the ref tries to pull him off. But he's like a rabid dog and pays the ref no mind.
     
  7. Jear

    Jear Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Marciano, intentionally or not did a lot of things outside the boundaries of the sport. Elbows, heads, shoulders, hitting hips and thighs.
    Holyfield is not the cleanest fighter around uses a few of these himself.
    Not a champion but Golotas headbutting, biting and low blows are among the more blatant examples of dirty fighting
     
  8. dav8d777

    dav8d777 Member Full Member

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    I think Sharkey should have remembered the golden rule and protected himself at all times. That blow was legal.
     
  9. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Are we talking smart dirty or dumb dirty.

    There is an important diference.
     
  10. dav8d777

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    Nope. It might have been even worse in the 30s.
     
  11. dav8d777

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    Rabbit punches were banned in 1941. The rabbit punch was defined as a blow to the back of the neck or the base of the skull, so it is not technically any blow to the back of the head, but is generally included.
     
  12. FromWithin

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  13. OLD FOGEY

    OLD FOGEY Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Banned by whom? Who was the central authority? The New York State Athletic Commission was generally a law onto itself, and then there was the NBA and a whole slew of separate state athletic organizations. My question is serious. Who exactly banned rabbit punching?

    Dempsey1238 quoted a Pennsylvania referee, but what about New York state or California? What were their actual rules?
     
  14. Mendoza

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    If dirty means fouls such as rabbit punching, kidney shots, low blows, elbows, head butts, biting and such, I'd say the following champions had their share of dirty moments:

    Dempsey
    Baer
    Marciano
    Liston
    Tyson
    Holyfield
     
  15. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lets not forget the low blow Louis gave to Max Schemling in there first fight. A few rounds before Louis got ko.