The distorted legacy of Manny Pacquiao

I'm seriously hopoing this is a joke. I mean some of the names on your list don't even make sense. Cotto rematch who would want to see that after the brutal beating he already took. Floyd Mayweather he did try and fight. Marquez is done, Pac has the win over him and should have had the first fight except for a judges error not to mention JMM looks like **** above 135 and Pac campaigns at 147 now. Bradley is a 140 fighter, this fight does make some sense but Pac is staying at or above 147 and at that weight it wouldn't be competitive, hell at 140 it would only be barely. Then the worse Valero, I loved the guy as a fighter but he hadn't payed his dues yet and he knew that. He was planning on fighting Pac in the future, but it made no sense at the time. Pac was campaigning 2 weight divisions above him and Valero was really rough. He had a lot of power but not much else at the time. I think if the murder and suicide never happened Valero would probably be Pac's farewell fight. And it would do 1 of 2 things pass the torch to the next generation of fighters, and yes I know Valero is only 3 years younger then Pac, or show that he can still hang with them.

Oh and for Shane Mosley the guy had 1 fight at WW before fighting Cotto, against DLH which didn't really show his ability to take a big punch from a WW. So he takes the Cotto fight to test that Cotto is a big puncher but not nearly as hard as Mosley. Seriously why does everyone expect people to go after #1 fighter their first real fight in a division. Then after the Cotto fight when the Mayweather fight fell through Shane was already signed up to fight Berto again fight doesn't make sense. Then Mayweather dominates him and we see Shane has lost a lot of it so no sense fighting now especially after the Mora fight. And really if he fought Mosley people would be saying why fight Mosley who is 38 and lost to Cotto when Cotto is all open. Fact is he probably intended to fight them both but circumstances change.

 

Boring.


8 pages?

Shame on you, general forum. Shame.

 

Cotto was weight-drained when he fought Pac.
Cotto wanted a rematch, on condition that Pac take random blood tests for EPO Steroid/hormones before the fight. Pac declined to take the tests.

Floyd was ready to fight. The Pac-Floyd was 99.9% dones. All that was needed, that Pac take random blood tests for EPO Steroid/hormones before the fight. Pac declined to take the tests.

JMM was robbed in the rematch cause Pac got away with an intentional headbutt. The first fight was a legit draw, cause Joe Cortez failed to take a point away from Pac, after Pac intentionally hit JMM after JMM was already down after the 3rd knockdown.

Bradley's last fight was at 147lbs, and called out Pac in the post fight interview. Pac has ignored Bradley's challenge.

You say, that Pac shouldn't fight Mosley cause Mosley did bad against Floyd and in his last fight against Mora???
Pac fought Morales (2nd time( after Morales did bad against Zaheer Raheem.
Pac fought Oscar Larios after Larios was KO'd by Israel Vazquez.
Pac fought (a FIXED FIGHT) DelaHOya after DelaHioya did bad after Floyd.
Pac fought Morales(1st fight) after Morales did bad against Barrera (3rd fight).


Pac is just a scared little kid that fights handpicked fights agaisnt weigt-drained, shot, over the hill fighters, and has had some FIXED FIGHTS.

 

If pac resume is ****? What would that make the others?

 

:rofl:rofl He's desperate....obviously.:smoke

 

*****s been desperate all this time...

 

All I want to say is Ariza joined Team Pacquiao right after the 2nd JMM fight which is fact. Watch Pacquiao/David Diaz and listen to the commentary. Jim clearly explains how shocked he is to see how Manny who was showing signs of deterioration can come back so dominant. Even Floyd said you don't go from ordinary to extraordinary. It's funny to me how people can be so biased and blind. No doubt Manny's whole resume is distorted. The truth will come out eventually.

 

Now you know they don't wanna hear that EPO talk... Not too many good arguments against it. :nono

 

I think it was MP's last fight at 130, and I remember them saying after the fight that they would not try to fight at 130 again. This was when he "gained" 13 pounds, overnight, after weigh in. (130 to 144)

People did say he looked a bit gaunt during his last weigh ins at the weight, against Solis and JMM. You can check the old threads here, I remember that.

So he moved up to 135, and fought Diaz. Did not tax his body as much as before.

MP looked very different because he was fighting a fellow lefty and he trained to utilise more hooks, and be effective, like how orthodox vs orthodox boxers fight one another.

And people always are saying that DIaz was cherrypicked and a weak champion and would be handled easily by any top level fighter to challenge him.

So MP did look good against him.

 

the ending... bravo!:happy i smell jealousy dude... still sticking to floyd on this one, eh? i thought the ending of this argument is a good one...

 

He is a fighter who only fights guys who promote his strengths. He's been perfectly matched against guys who will make him look good. He never fought anybody like Floyd or Guzman at 130. Those guys would give him hell.

 

I love how *****s contradict themselves. The reason why Pac is accused of PED use is because of his performance and his resume. So that means he has done extraordinary things. Phenomenal things I must say. If not, suspicions would'nt arise in the first place.

So PLEASE *****s, just choose ONE. You can't have it both at the same time. I'ts either:

1. Pac is GREAT, thus the PED accusation.
-or-
2. Pac has **** resume, Pac is ordinary. Meaning, all these PED accusations are Floyds excuse to duck him.

So, which one is it???! Kind of hard to answer eh? LOL.

 

Before Alex Ariza joine Team Pacquiao, ****** Fortune was Pac's conditioning coach, and Fortune is a known steroid user, and associate of Conte's BALCO client list.

 

Cotto and Hatton were his best fights.

He's only been fighting at a higher weight since June of 2008. Only 2 years. I think he's wasted his last 2 fights Margo and Clottey.

He could and should be taking on tougher style fights. But we all know he's protected in a way.

Take a look at Marquez's resume. Just absolutely solid from top to bottom

 

So, Pac has been juicing since 2001?

When he first arrived at the Wildcard gym?