The distorted legacy of Manny Pacquiao

Not to many disagreements from anything you said but Ariza did in fact join Freddie right before the Diaz fight. A right hook and angles didn't make Manny any better. If that were the case he could've easily opened up Clottey and land more than 20% of his punches. Also it's no secret that Manny's punch resistance has gotten better as well. You don't go from doing the irish jig numerous times against Jmm to walking through punches that bust your eardrum or what not. I understand people love his personality and style over Floyds which leads to a great bias but as Ive posted. The truth eventually is coming out sooner or later. Instead of his word there will be tests to prove if he's been clean and if he looks like **** against Floyd and his power is ineffective everything is going to be questioned then it'll be Manny getting beat with a stick by the public.

His skills are overrated and so is his resume. Luckily Floyd is so hated many has public opinion on his side. Only thing he has going for him.

 

In a televised interview (Golpe a Golpe), Barrera said that before his first fight with Pac, in 2003, during the pre-fight drug test, he saw Pac's urine sample being carried by a nurse, and Barrera said with his trainer (whom was sitting next to him) that Pac's urine is so dark, that he(Pac) must be on something.

In the Pac-Marquez fight (2004), after Pac dropped JMM 3 times in the 1st round, Pac broke his hand from punching JMM chin, and still was able to fight the 12 rounds, without showing obvious pain.

Steroids numb pain in bones.

Just like Frankie Randall was able to go 12 rounds vs JC Chavez, despite Randall having broked ribs, he didn't feel pain, cause it was numb, cause Randall was on steroids when he fought Chavez.

 

The difference between Diaz and Clottey was, Diaz opens up a lot more.

More aggressive, comes forward a lot more, goes into back and forth exchanges, and doe not have the best punching power.

So you are more likely to throw more punches and less afraid to get caught with a blindside one punch KO.

Morales almost beat the guy and messed his eye up. (I thought EM did enough to win, actually)

Fighting at a more natural, or at least more comfortable weight adds some more punch resistance. Or at least better durability to last deep into the fight.

You know it's true.

It's your opinion if you feel that MP is a cheat, but he's never had any issues with cheating in the boxing ring ever since he started, and I think he should be innocent until proven guilty.

 

IF the dude can move up 40 pds in his career, and beat a WORLD CLASS BOXER for a Title belt MORE POWER TO HIM! He beat Cotto at Clottey at Welter...Freakin Welterweight. The same small dude that fought barrera, marquez, etc was beating Cotto! Not that he's an ATG, but he's got plenty of impressive wins. He beat Clottey (whom in one of the biggest WW out there), and also some impressive wins.
He annihilated Hatton within 2 rounds.

He's beat good opposition like that(who are much bigger than him), and not only beat em...DEMOLISHED THEM! Pac demolishing Cotto is comparable to Floyd fighting Bute in a year, and knocking him out in the 5th!
Nobody thought Pac was gonna beat Cotto, DLH, Hatton, etc. HE did though, and that's what makes his wins/ titles impressive.

 

this one is not bad... :deal i would campaign for this one :happy

 

I dont know about the science of steroids "numbing the bones" .

We can ask the guys here with better knowledge about that.

Did you see Mayweather-Mosley 24/7? Did you see a cup of Mayweather's urine sample on that show? It almost looked like a cup of icedd tea, it was so dark. Was he doing drugs?

You do get darker colored urine when you get dehydrated from training too hard and not drinking as much water as you're supposed to.

 

I'm sorry bro but EM did beat Manny.He outboxed him pretty good.Fights 2 and 3 he was weight drained and coming off a lost. David Diaz was also a crappy fighter if you want to stick to lamest terms. I know youre not a ******* so really no qualms between us. But innocent until proven guilty is a meaningless phrase these days. If it wasnt for the deflamation of character lawsuit people would be able to find articles of Manny's so called phobias. I'm not saying he always cheated. I'm just saying that when Ariza joined the ranks its clear as day there was a huge difference and it wasn't necessary skill buddy.

 

I said Morales vs Diaz.

Morales won that fight, I thought.

EM beat Pac the first time, I agree.

 

ehy Aztecas, stop dreaming ang wake up, i know your a failed fiction writer, hate yourself not your momma for not doing good in school. :hi:

 

They ignored it. I hope someone would enlighten me and answer it. It's just a simple "choose between the two" question.

 

but without clear proof, it's all just women's gossip.

Tarnishing a man's reputation because of the way he looks, or the people he's friends with, or the way he talks, or the way he lives.

Saying he probably is, because you suspects he is.

I know people can say it's nothing if you know it's not true, but in real life, a lot of people's lives have been destroyed because of loose talk and gossip and bad rumours and witch hunts.

 

I agree his title at 135 was an alphabet title

 

ehy me too :hi::hi: ***** which is which... sandwhich :hey

 

Bro it's actions I'm going off of. If you're clean you accept the test and don't run to Clottey. Floyd even gave him a 14 day cuttoff. Pac wanted 24. Even when Brian Kenny interviewed Manny before the Clottey fight he asked Pacquiao about the tests. Manny didn't even know what Kenny was talking about. We just have a difference of "opinion". Thats all.

 

Could Pacquiao be showings signs of things that are not natural against a very carefully selected opposition? :think