The Duke Morrison

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  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I'm almost certain he got it from sharing steroid needles. Although taboo to discuss, it is extremely difficult for men to get HIV through heterosexual sex and I dont think he was bi.

    If I remember correctly, one of the lawsuits by Trish is how it was ultimately revealed that Morrison knowingly started a pro career while having HIV (and back in the late 80s/early 90s that would've been regarded as being almost sociopathic).

    I'm not sure what exactly Trish's motives are, but I suspect she had a cult like devotion to Morrison. She was around when Tommy was talking about teleportation and all kinds of crazy stuff.
     
  2. RealDeal

    RealDeal Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Did athletic commissions not test for HIV prior to 1996? I remember hearing that he may have had it as far back as 1989, but if so, how did it never show up on earlier tests?
     
  3. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    They weren't testing. He had 11 fights in a row out of Nevada before testing positive in Nevada. Does it sound normal for a high profile American heavyweight to skip Vegas like that?
     
  4. Vanderlinde

    Vanderlinde New Member Full Member

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    Trish motives is obviously getting Morrison declared never having HIV in the first place, and sue nevada comission for ruining tommy's boxing carreer. Mind you there was 30+ million dollars contract at stake that pretty much would retire Tommy for the rest of his life.

    Problem was; tommy avoided going through the blood test and to the last point he finally did it, coming out HIV positive. It just does'nt match up why someone would avoid taking a blood test like that. After the news was out; lennox lewis went immidiatly for a HIV test due to the fight with Morrison prior.

    Ive seen some things Thrish send me, but apart from some facebook meme's and weird sketchy pulled out of context things, there is'nt just much ground she has here. This is a old case and this should have bin settled back then. It woud'nt suprise me that this **** is being framed together, coming with bogus evidence, HIV tests prior with non-official nevada docters, i just dont know really!

    They started testing at 96 or 95. It was 7 years due to tommy admitting he had HIV before that (89). The HIV test however was nothing more then a test on certain antibodies created by the human body upon a HIV infection.

    He assumed he had it: he never tested for it. His mother declared 2 times in 2 interviews that he had HIV. It was appearant when his condition started to become low along one of the fights before 1996. And his mother finally said after him passing away being bedridden for a year, on a ventilator and died of full blown aids. Trish, comes up with a complete utterly bull**** story, that he died due to different reasons. Ill spare you her side of the story really, because it does'nt make any sense.

    She simply does'nt give a clear answer on my question to her why they did'nt retest, and more important did'nt took the inventation of the nevada comission themself rather then picking foreign doctors all over the place that declared tommy to be "HIV" free. There are accusations along the path that they traded blood to skew the tests.

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    This was a whole different tommy, before the denial kicked in.
     
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  5. Vanderlinde

    Vanderlinde New Member Full Member

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    I'll give you guys a good hypothese to think of. What if someone with full blown aids is bedridden for the last 6 to 12 months, the family is being denied to see their family member. Tommy in this case is fed anti viral medication even tho at this point it wont make sense because the HIV already done it's damage. Tommy passes away. A blood sample is taken from post mortem.

    The result show a negative. What do you think of this theory? Why would trish be so on top of Tommy and now claiming documents of tommy having no signs of aids or HIV? This question appeared in my mind last night; and i actually took the effort to email 3 different HIV specialists all over the world. One from nevada (tada), one from africa, and one from holland. I'd also dumped my question in community because this is a very interesting theory.

    Because with this document, trish is trying to sue the nevada comission, for almost 30 million dollars, while all evidence did show tommy being HIV infected and a rapid detoriation in the last 10 to 15 years. I know it sounds a bit hard to swallow, but i think i have a very good point here. And i'm quite curious to know if this is possible, or if this was done before.

    I know by now from the 2 days of communication i have or had with trish, she's not the sorry crying widow she pretends she is. She's making life work out of someone who was dying and she saw an oppertunity to milk this to the bottom. I really hope i'm wrong here, but my gut tells me that i'm pretty spot on.
     
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  6. The Clan

    The Clan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I prefer to remember him at his best and still full of potential to be a great Heavyweight Champion who’s be talked about for decades.

    Out of the ring he seemed like a nice guy who loved life and lived it to the full

    RIP Tommy Morrison
     
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  7. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    He had unprotected sex with lots of people while knowingly having HIV. He wasn't a nice guy.
     
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  8. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Surprisingly, in Africa, it´s the other way. The vast majority of HIV cases are from hetero sex. Meanwhile in western countries and so, it´s about 5% or something.
    And basically for a westerner it comes down to whom you have sex with. If Morrison only banged American chicks, then it is VERY unlikely that he got it from sex.
     
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  9. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I didn't watch the video. I've heard her talk about it before. He had HIV.
     
  10. RealDeal

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    I don’t see why it matters if it was an antibody test. That is how most diseases are initially tested for, and I believe HIV is still primarily tested for through antibodies. Then I believe you would have some type of RNA test to confirm the initial positive antibody test, so maybe she’s saying Tommy never had a confirmatory test done. However, I don’t see what would have stopped him from getting a confirmatory test. Or is she saying he had an RNA test done and it came out negative?
     
  11. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Doesn't take a genius, he had aids

    Now if we can work out if Gatti hung himself with that little purse on a staircase or his wife killed him whilst he was inebriated please.
     
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  12. NoNeck

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    I'm not gonna look into Morrison's case enough to know, but a person with HIV will often have an undetectable vital load, including a large majority who are on meds, but posiitve antibodies.
     
  13. Vanderlinde

    Vanderlinde New Member Full Member

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    I really have no idea; i think they've done their homework back in 1996 at nevada comission dont you think? They woud'nt be flagging someone just like that; but more extensive tests done to confirm and to be 100% sure the outcome was valid.

    But Trish was only in the last 2 or 3 years in his life. She was never around before all that. Yet she's defending him not to have HIV in 89 and that it's all false reports or whatever. Or the video posted above, where tommy is in this doctor room, claiming the "Doc" did'nt have a name and that it was staged or whatever the f (one second later you'll see a namecard on the door with the docs name).

    It's obvious to me, that they both where and she is still in denial. They made very weird claims that HIV did'nt even exist. She's basicly attempting to re-open the morrison case and with the result of a post mortem blood sample try to convince that he did'nt had HIV. But as i wrote; i'm still not sure if it's possible to feed someone threatment even at the final stage of his or her life, to have blood results "come out negative". Because if it's possible, she almost might have planned the big masterplan of ensuring big chunks of cash.

    It's no doubt to me to this point that tommy did had HIV. All the evidence is right there. And even if it was'nt solid enough, it's still very very questionable in what really was going on looking at all the pieces. If i'm correct she's attempting to have various video's to be removed from youtube as well which is obviously evidence against her own case. You watch that woman closely. ^
     
  14. Heisenberg

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    Out of everything, it was those terrible pec implants that I found shocking in the staged ‘kickboxing’ bout. Was Tommy beginning to waste and just unable to maintain or build natural muscle?
     
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  15. Vanderlinde

    Vanderlinde New Member Full Member

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    Well being HIV positive, without threatment, pretty much the body detoriates very fast, thus losing weight, change in voice and everything. Getting HIV is a living hell or simply said death scentence. The mascara i never understood either.

    Trish throws the death due to a complication of a failed surgery or something. Something that got clogged in there (a piece of bandage). I mean what in the world kind of amateur doctor was that?
     
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