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Name: Chang Jung-Koo

Height: 5'3 1/2 (161cm)

Boxing record
Total fights 42
Wins 38
KO's 17
Losses 4 (1)

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Legendary Mexican Strawweight Ricardo Lopez is often heralded as the greatest 'little guy' (below Flyweight) in history, but 'The Korean Hawk' Jung Koo Chang was equally formidable in style (whislt being a complete contrast) and running the gauntlet of a great light-flyweight era, amassing a ring record of some quality, and was one of the greatest P4P fighters of the 1980s.

Turning pro at 17 years old (and having not taken up the art much longer before, being a street fighter part of a South Korean gang) Chang tore through the 80's with a hard-to-gauge style, where feints set up whirlwind attacks, veteran tricks on the inside allowed him to tie his opponent up and work freely himself, as well as a way of getting himself some time and re-charg his gas tank to set up the next influx of punches. By the age of 19, he had faced ATG light-flyweight (and one of the greatest defensive stylists of the lower weights) Hilario Zapata, losing a controversial decision. He then claimed the title in a rematch, frustrating Zapata with his assault, causing the lanky great to retire during the third round. Zapata would go on to success in the Flyweight division.

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With wins over Sot Chitalada, German Torres, Hideyuki Ohashi, Hilario Zapata, Armado Ursua, Katsuo Tokashiki and Alfonso Lopez, Changs style knew no boundaries in terms of vanquishable foes. With good punch resistance, swift head movement, and the aforementioned crafty ways of gaining himself some respite, Chang could overwhelm and swarm his helpless opponent with a seemingly unstoppable tirade of punches, or use his seemingly lackadaisacal mid-range work to fire off shots and outbox his opponent, his unorthodox feints (almost humorous) and flicked out arm movements baffling his opponent into hysteria, with his switch-hitting he was a true nightmare for any style he came across.

vs German Torres I

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vs former champ Alfonso Lopez who had mixed at the highest level

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Changs amazing fight with Tokashiki, who had been a long reigning WBA champ

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A notorious party animal, Changs 'second career' (after a brief hiatus) was full of sporadic success, including a fairly one-sided loss to Humberto 'Chiquita' Gonzalez (known by many for his epic trilogy with another light-fly ATG, Michael Carbajal) but Jung-Koo Changs style (which fellow poster GPater once remarked of; 'he goes through styles') would be formidable in any era, and his resume is unmatched in the annals of 108lb fighters.

Chang then had a shot at beating the no.1 rated Flyweight for many years, a man who Chang had beaten years before at Light Fly; the formidable Thai, Sot Chitalada. In an amazing robbery, Chitalada kept his title via Majority Decision, though I felt Chang had nullified him early and outworked him for most of the contest. Chang should've bounced back from the first conclusive loss of his career against Chiquita to become the no.1 Flyweight in the World. Officially, he isn't. But his performance in this fight is worthy of big kudos from any discernible fight historian; Jung Koo Chang was The Man (again)

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Six months after that disappointing result, Chang had another crack at gaining universal recognition as the no.1 and lineal Champion at Flyweight, against hard punching Thai Muangchai Kittikasem, who had stopped Chitalada to take his crown. Ahead on points in an entertaining affair, Chang aims to finish off his larger foe, but suffers heartbreak as he is stopped in the final round, ending his career.

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-World Champion aged nineteen

-Defeated eight former, present or future 'World' titlists

-Should've earned the no.1 spot in two weight classes

-Made 15 defences of WBC Light Flyweight Championship

-Inducted into IBHOF in 2010

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I'm a massive admirer of Ortiz, so well-rounded, a top 3-5 Lightweight and top 40 P4P fighter for sure IMO, nice write-up as well :good

 

Was he born 8th of December or 12th of December! You ought to be more careful Laz, if I get my girlfriends birthday wrong!! :bbb hell to pay!

 

8th december, same date he fought graham earl and hatton fought mayweather

 

Awesome thread...:good

 

Name: Jimmy Wilde

Date: 12 / 5 / 1892 - 10 / 3 / 1969

Weight: Flyweight

Height: 5′ 2½″/ 159cm

Reach: 66″ / 168cm

Boxing Record: 134 (100) - 4 (3) - 2 (Newspaper Decisions 4-1-0)

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Born in Wales in 1892 to the son of a coal miner, Jimmy Wilde, aka 'the mighty atom', started boxing at the age of 16 in local fair grounds where he would challenge local hard men in order to make ends meat. The onlooking crowds gasped in amazement as Wilde took on, and beat, all comers regardless of their size and weight, often scoring knockouts against men twice his size.

Officially, Wilde turned professional in December 1910, where the young Welshman fought a no contest with Les Williams in Pontypridd. This somewhat medicore start was not, however, a sign of things to come as 'little Jimmy' embarked on a 103 unbeaten run, seeing him capture the British 7 stone championship with an eighth round KO of Billy Padden, a relitive novice from Glasgow.

Wilde's impressive winning streak came to an end, however, when he challenged Tancy Lee for the vacant European Flyweight Title. Wilde, outweighed officially by almost a stone, was finally stopped in the 17th round (of twenty) after his corner stopped the bout. What is intresting to note, however, is that a week before the bout, Jimmy Wilde came down with the flu, and was even physically sick moments before the fight. A brief clip can be seen here:

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Wilde, seemingly aggravated by his first professional loss, then embarked on a brutal 16 fight KO winning streak, winning the British Flyweight title against Joe Symonds (58-9-5), stopping him in the twelfth.

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Just three fights later, Wilde would win the IBU 'World' Flyweight title, defeating Johnny Rosner in the 11th. (The IBU, while claiming to be a world organisation, was only recognised in Europe.) This run also saw Wilde stop Sid Smith, a veteran of almost 80 fights.

Feeling unbeatable, Wilde fought twice on the 13th May 1916, defeating both Joe Magnus and ****** Saunders in less than five rounds apiece at the Woolwich Dockyard. On the 26th June of that year, Wilde would avenge his only loss to date, stopping Trancy Lee in the 11th.

Later that year, 'The Mighty Atom' officially became the first World Flyweight Champion by stopping the colourfully named Young Zulu Kid in the 11th. The fight, scheduled for 20, came to an end just after the half way mark when Wilde landed a crushing left to the jaw of 'the Kid', causing the American's corner to throw in the towel. Just three months later, Wilde would unify the World title with the British and European titles, stopping George Clark in four.

Jimmy Wilde continued winning until the 12th December 1918, when he was defeated by the then Bantamweight World Champion Memphis Moore (54-6-13), an opponent who was rumoured to outweigh Wilde by 14 pound on fight night. Like his first defeat against Lee, Wilde, somewhat dubiously, won the rematch against Moore, defeating the American on points over twenty rounds. In 1920, Wilde also defeated the likes of Frankie Mason (62-5-11), Battling Al Murray (26-4), and Patsy Wallace in a bout which drew the then largest crowd in Canadian boxing history.

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Wilde's career was to end with dissapointing back to back defeats. In 1921 he was knocked out by Pete Herman (49-9-6) in the 17th and, after a two year retirement, lost to Pancho Vella (62-4-3), the

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via a 7th round stoppage, sending the Welshmen into retirement for the final time.

Jimmy Wilde's record, however, doesn't do him justice. While finishing with a record of 137-4-2 with 100 knockouts, Wilde himself claimed to have fought over 800 times, winning the majority. Wilde's knock out ratio suggests he was an all action slugger who threw bombs in an attempt to knock his opponent out. This, however, wasn't the case, as Wilde was a master of defence, often making opponents look foolish by weaving onslaughts and poping out the jab with a smile on his face. One expert referred to him as 'A ghost with a hammer in his hand'. Wilde's Boxrec records also do not do him justice. Many of his opponents, particularly in his early years, are shown to have very few fights. This, however, is misleading, as the lower weights at the time were very rarely covered during this period of British boxing.

In 1990, Wilde was elected into the Boxing Hall of Fame and, two years later, was voted into the Welsh Sports Hall of Fame. A decade later, Ring Magazine voted Wilde as the 3rd greatest puncher of all time, behind the great Joe Louis and equally great Sam Langford.

Jimmy Wilde died as a result of injuries sustained in a mugging in 1969.

For me, Jimmy Wilde was not only the greatest Flyweight of all time and the greatest British boxer of all time, he was also pound for pound the hardest puncher the sport has ever known. A nice tribute to the Mighty Atom can been seen here:

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Besides Joe Lynch (great win no doubt) YZK and Tancy Lee there isn't a lot of depth on Wildes resume.

Of course, we have to take into account the lack of records surviving of lower weight fighters from those days.

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Nothing 'old-fashioned' about these two at all. Great scrap, and Wilde was past his best.

I've seen Jimmy Wildes loss to Lee as well, it appeared to be fatigue due to such a big guy roughing him up. The towel was thrown in.

Both Pete Herman and Villa were ATG's and at the end of his career, no shame there.

He does have a very good claim indeed. I'd pick Chang to outpoint him over 12/15 though :yep

 

Burley was a very special operator indeed.

 

Nice 1 Flea! Chang was Very good indeed, but could he withstand Wilde's power? I'm not so sure. You're right, his record is missing a few ATG names, but that's not his fault as there was no one else he could have fought IMO. good import tho :good

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm a massive Wilde admirer:good I just think Chang, who could be awkward as **** to time, would be able to see out the rough moments, and use his more diverse offence (judging by what I've read/seen on The Mighty Atom) to stop Wilde getting too much off.

Some of the exchanges would be epic though :yep No doubt Wilde has the power to one punch spark pretty much anyone at Flyweight.

From one great Flyweight to another...............

 

Great thread guys :good

 

Name: Pascual Perez

Height:: 4 ft. 11 1/2 in.

Birth: 1926-05-04

Death: 1977-01-22

Boxing recordTotal fights 92
Wins 84
KO's 57
Losses 7 (3)
Draws 1

Pocket dynamo Pascual Perez was an awkward Argentine who trotted around his opponents, throwing vicious bombs and using dynamic upper body movement to avoid what was coming back.

One of the greatest Flyweights of all time, incomplete records hamper any chances of getting a conclusive gauge of how great his opposition was, but footage paints him as a very skilled operator indeed.

His most well-known opponents were Pone Kingpetch, the great Thai flyweight boxer and IMO, Perez deserved a fair shake of the first fight. Kingpetch won their 2nd encounter on a cut, in another red hot clash. Yoshio Shirai, was a very good Flyweight Champion whom Perez beat for the title.

Enjoy some footage :good

A Julian Jackson-esque K.O of Welshman Dai Dower

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His leaping hooks were heavy. His switch-hitting 'horse trot' style quite balletic.

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Vs Yoshio Shirai for the World Flyweight Championship; watch Perez's odd trotting footwork

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Some rounds from 1st fight with Kingpetch: Perez arguably deserves the win

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2nd fight with Kingpetch: Perez's last top flight fight

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Someone make this thread a sticky. Great idea this

 

x2:good

If you like Wilde, check out Perez above if you haven't already. He also pushes Wilde hard for top billing at Fly IMO.

On the Classic forum, Perez came out on top in a hypothetical flyweight tournament. I think we had him beating Chang in the semis (I picked him to stop him very late) and Harada in the final:good

 

Yeah I just had a read pal :good Must admit I hadn't come across him before. Will check out the footage when I get on my laptop as the iPhone is pretty crap for video. Nice 1 pal