The evolution of boxing

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  1. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It DID evolve and improve over time, I wouldn't argue that. I would argue that it's been declining and going back down the other side of the mountain since around the late 70's to mid-80's, somewhere around there.
     
  2. BoxerFan89

    BoxerFan89 Active Member Full Member

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    The question is why has it declined?
     
  3. FartWristedBum

    FartWristedBum I walk this Earth like a bum Full Member

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    No offence mate but this kind of rationale is termed "idiot logic" (not by me!)
    Unfortunately, life is more complicated than the a=b=c scenario you describe. Lots of skills and physical gifts have been lost over time, not just in sports, despite a growing global population. You are, unfortunately, 'talking out your @rse' as it were, with no statistical or evidence based back-up. Simply a sweeping assertion that the same rules apply to 'boxing' as school games.

    Let's not pretend what anyone here types is "undeniable" if they're not quoting a reputable source for their numbers.
     
  4. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    You are unfortunately talking out of your ****. At least what he says is logical, RATIONAL. Just keep it real, you love your ancient heroes of the past enough to demean the current generation of boxers. You are as deluded as those that think Joe Louis knocks Wladimir out with ONE JAB :lol:
     
  5. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Could be that boxing stopped being such a mainstream sport where every large city had a lot of fight clubs. The demand for fights was there, so good clubs, good gyms, and good trainers abounded. You don't see that anywhere anymore, do you? At least not in the states. It's nothing but a fringe sport anymore. Reduced numbers of fights, fewer clubs, fewer gyms, fewer good trainers. As night follows day.
     
  6. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Agree
     
  7. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Just imagine Roy Jones and the way he used to prepare, vs Archie Moore and Ezzard Charles. It's foolish and disrespectful to suggest Roy Jones WOULDN'T absolutely toy with them both based on the footage we've seen and the way their career schedules and landscapes were.

    Charles beats Burley despite having a very close fight just 12 days before in which he lost vs Kid Tunero and consequently took some beatings that fight. Sure guys, Roy Jones loses to them both :patsch
     
  8. gregluland

    gregluland Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I am not wasting time anymore, you and those with your dumb stance will never change, your argument is meaningless and I have answered it often here and I WILL NOT repeat myself.
     
  9. gregluland

    gregluland Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is a reason averages haven't risen and thats because the bowlers cancel that out
     
  10. gregluland

    gregluland Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mayweather couldn't beat Robinson under any conditions, everything Floyd can do Ray does a LOT BETTER
     
  11. gregluland

    gregluland Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Complete and utter rubbish, unfounded opinion and thats all it it... assert all the BS you want and its still BS

    LOL this is a combat sport not athletics or swimming and you think drug cheats would ever count anyway ???. The boxers of old trained to fight not to look good in a pair of speedos, I can see with my very eyes old timers were better, tougher and could fight more often and longer etc etc etc
     
  12. gregluland

    gregluland Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Stop using Wlad as an example, he is too big but why not use all the other and better categories where there is no difference in size ? Your argument is weak because you have to resort to using one giant to help your case, Louis was still far better than Wlad, but it is just like a MW fighting a HW so there you go.
     
  13. gregluland

    gregluland Boxing Addict Full Member

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    in other words there were more fights and more fighters in 1920 a process which started in the 1910's and then boxing hits its peak in the 30's then starts to drop by 1940 and declines a lot till the 70's, starts to rise till about 2000 hits a peak but still nothing compared to the 1920's and 30's and THEN by 2010 it has gone down badly again so we are in a very weak period and I was right and they were wrong... thanks kingfisher you proved my case... now case closed lets move on
     
  14. Berlenbach

    Berlenbach Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What does Jones do to prepare that guarantees a win against Charles and Moore? Steroids?
     
  15. gregluland

    gregluland Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes by saying that it does mean you know the sport, and no his average is not like Marcianos record in the slightest. In cricket the batting average IS HOW WE RATE batsmen and it never changes, I am not having a go at you, your statement has a ring of logic for someone who knows nothing about cricket, the thing is Bardmans status as the greatest is not disputed by anyone or any fan of the game, he is universally accepted as the untouchable greatest.