the fab of the 80s compared to the fab 5 of today...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Illmatic, Aug 16, 2007.


  1. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hagler, Leonard, Hearns, Duran, Benitez
    Hopkins, DLH, PBF, Mosley, Hatton

    I dont see how todays fab 5 DOESNT compare to the fab 5 of yesteryear.

    Hopkins is greater than Hagler, and b.c of Hagler;s popularity, he is constantly overrated. For godsakes, freakin Mugabi is made out to be a legend b/c he fought a close fight with Hagler.

    DLH isnt as great as Leonard, but he is an ATG in his own right and has accomplished some amazing feats as a pro.

    PBF hasnt fought the ATGs Hearns has, but has accomplished more in terms of championships , titles, etc. Hearns was the man at 154, and won titles at 147, 160, 175 or 168 (cant remember at the moment). PBF has championships at 130, 135, 147, and titles at 140 and 154. So, debate away who;s the better fighter, but they are comparable.

    Mosley and Duran comparable as well. Both absolute beasts at lightweight, beat an ATG at welterweight and titles at higher weightclass. Also, were very effective as their age increases and skills diminish slightly.

    Benitez and Hatton. Now Hatton hasnt gotten to Benitez's status, as he was the man at 140, 147 and won a title at 154. While Hatton has won the championship at 140, title at 147. But Hatton still has time to grow and they have completely different styles.....this is probably the worst comparison to support my point, but Hatton's career is still in midstream and has accomplished quite a deal- being a top 10 pound for pound fighter for the last couple years.


    So, in conclusion, everything looks better when looking at the past, but who is to say that the fab 5 of thge 80s is so much better than the fab of today?
     
  2. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    the 80's for boxing were great and it will be hard to get fighters like that again ever i feel. because todays game isnt about Heart and Courage it is more about money and not losing.

    the 80's had guys like

    Mike Tyson
    Larry Holmes
    Marvin Hagler
    Tommy Hearns
    Ray Leonard
    Julio C Chavez
    Azumah Nelson
    Roberto Duran
    these guys knew the word heart and they went in with killer attitudes.
    Todays fighters are more worried about the losing and if they do they think the money might dry up.
    there safer more tactical weary and only fight if the money is perfect.
    but it is slowly getting better with fighters now taking the big fights as we are starting to see.

    but if was to compare the fighters of today with the 80's i would say one thing guys back then had Killer instinct and had heart. todays guys are like Basketball players protected and care about the money more than there reputation.
     
  3. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well its still hard to judge because they are still fighting and at least two are yet to really hit the peak of their career.

    I cant consider them as good yet but they could all certainly hold their own against those guys at the very least.
    Except I reckon any of those guys smash Hatton at 147.

    I agree that people look back with to much nostalgia, boxing in the 80's is the same game it is now pretty much. Its silly to suggest that the guys of today that rise up to be the best of their era, are so much different to guys of only 20 years ago.

    Comparing boxing today with boxing in the 30's, 40's and 50' is a lot harder because the sport was a lot different back then.
     
  4. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    also i would have to say i miss the 80's. but it is slowly getting better with fights like
    Hatton vs PBF
    Calzaghe vs Kessler
    Cotto vs Mosley
    all these fights are great for the sport and its a step in the right direction.
     
  5. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The problem is the likes Leonard, Hagler, Hearns and Duran were household names that even the casual fan knew of.

    Maybe casual fans have heard of de la Hoya, possibly Mayweather Jr but that is it, and even if they had heard of Oscar and Floyd they would not know their achievements and big fights like they had of Hagler, Hearns Duran and Leonard.
     
  6. VIP

    VIP Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We are in the middle of a very good era, golden age of boxing. There's some very good fights coming up this year, and there's already been some great ones. The only real weakness is the heavyweight division.
     
  7. Stewbear

    Stewbear Active Member Full Member

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    Um however you want to spin it Hagler, Duran, Hearns, Benitez, and Leonard were far far far greater than your modern fab 5.
     
  8. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Illmatic your forgeting most of the Fab 5 fought each other. Theres only been 5 fights between the modern fighters you mentioned compared to 10 fights between the Fab 5.

    Also if you just want to look at great fighters from the era theres McCallum, Pryor, Tyson, Chavez, Spinks, Salvador Sanchez, Arguello. Allot of these fighters have claims to be the best ever in their weight classes.

    So the 5 fighters you mentioned aren't light years apart but overal they are second best as a group. How would the following go:

    Hagler-BHOPs (MH)
    Pryor-Hatton (P)
    Mayweather-Duran (M)
    Leonard-Delahoya (L)
    McCallum-Winky Wright (M)
    Benitez-Cotto (B)
    Hearns-Trinidad (H)

    The 8-s win all but 1 of those 7 for me
     
  9. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    nice call just goes to show they need to grow some killer instincts or maybe some heart.
     
  10. bill poster

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    Mike McCallum in his prime would dismantle all those modern day fighters you listed
     
  11. lillarry

    lillarry Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bingo. In 20 years, there will be people saying things like "There will never be another PBF" . The past is always a little bit more pleasing to people than the here and now
     
  12. Gsand

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    casual fans in the UK know hatton

    at best they call mayweather merryweather so i dont like he has oscar like global popularity
     
  13. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You are right about Hatton, but even then there is a north/south split in this country (England) about Hatton.

    It hurts his marketability that he is not from London.

    de la Hoya is respected in Britain by sports fans, but I still think a casual sports fan would not be able to name a fighter de la Hoya has beaten...

    Mayweather is a complete unknown force in Britain. If a casual fan has heard of him they still would not know who he has fought or indeed what he looks like.

    The casual sports fan may of heard of Hopkins or Mosley but would have less of a clue about them than Mayweather.
     
  14. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    this would be a great line up of fights if they could happen and who would you think would win.

    1988 Mike Tyson Vs 2007 Wlad Klitschko HW

    1986 Michael Spinks Vs 2001 Roy Jones Jr 175

    1985 Marvin Hagler Vs 2004 Bernard Hopkins 160

    1984 Tommy Hearns Vs 2002 Oscar Dela Hoya 154

    1981 Ray Leonard Vs 2007 Floyd Mayweather 147

    1983 Aaron Pryor Vs 2007 Ricky Hatton 140

    1980 Roberto Duran Vs 2007 Miguel Cotto 147

    1988 Julio C Chavez Vs 2007 Juan Diaz 135

    1989 Azumah Nelson Vs 2006 Manny Pacquiao 130

    Now although there will be debates about who would win just imagine watching all these fights no matter what the result.
     
  15. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Hagler > Hopkins
    Duran > Mosley
    Leonard > De La Hoya
    Hearns > Mayweather (by the way, Hearns won titles at 147, 154, 160, 168, 175, and the IBO/WBU at Cruiserweight)
    Benitez > Hatton

    1980s was better!