the fab of the 80s compared to the fab 5 of today...

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  1. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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  2. El Bombasto

    El Bombasto Ask yo momma Full Member

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    Delahoya and Leonard are comparable in skill?

    Perhaps Floyd has 'accomplished' more than Hearns in terms of championships precisely because he hasn't fought a decent level of competition.

    I'm a Mosley fan, and I still can't believer you're comparing him to Duran.:patsch

    There are lots of examples where today's fighters are better than those of yesteryear, and I think that many old guys tend to think of the fighters of 'their era' as being somehow better than those of this era. But, these are terrible comparisons.
     
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  3. Toopretty

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    True.....I mean they had the greater FIGHTS. But the fighters to me are near the same caliber. Duran is an exception, not too many skilled pressure fighters like that around. And Hearns..not too many phenoms vicious guys that can box his ass of and destroy you with one punch like that. SRL beat both guys and he is the truth. I say FAB 3. Hagler is a little overrated in my book. He was a great fighter but did not beat great fighters at his weight to me. B/c there were not many. But I put the 3 over top of him.
     
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  4. The taff

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    Agreed :good
     
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  5. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Hagler's opposition was better than Hopkins
     
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  6. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    exxactly...by fighting Hagler then they became known as these ferocious contenders. Much like Mugabi who never beat a decent fighter in his career.

    Hopkins with wins over DLH, Tito, Winky, Tarver, Holmes, Joppy, Johnson is clearly the more accomplished fighter
     
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  7. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Hagler's wins over Duran and Hearns surpass Hopkins' wins over De La Hoya and Trinidad
     
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  8. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I guess you can win CHAMPIONSHIPS in three weight classes by fighting complete bums....:patsch I didnt know that winning real championships was the easy way out.

    Mosley to Duran comparison is being made b/c they both were beasts at lightweight while not beating a great crop of lightweights, went up to welterweight to beat an ATG. and later went on to win a title at a higher weight. Their careers, accomplishment-wise, are following a similar path
     
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  9. Illmatic

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    He barely beat an ATG in Duran and kayoed Hearns, Hopkins dominated two. And what about their other fights...what other great fighters did he beat...any that were his size?
     
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  10. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Hagler-Duran is the most exaggerated "close fight" ever. Hagler won 10 or 11 rounds.

    Hagler beat solid fighters in Antuofermo, Briscoe, Monroe, Watts, Minter, Mugabi, 154 pounder Obelmejias, and Hamsho

    Hopkins beat middleweights like Echols, Joppy, Allen, Holmes, Lipsey, and Daniels. He beat former light middleweights in Jackson, Wright, and Brown.
     
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  11. Illmatic

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    okay, did Hagler beat any great fighters that were his size?
     
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  12. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    No, Did Hopkins?

    You have to remember that De La Hoya and Trinidad were moving up to 160 as Duran and Hearns were, but Hearns and Duran are clearly the greater fighters.
     
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  13. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think people are missing the point:

    Hopkins, de la Hoya, Mosley, Mayweather Jr and Hatton are/were all superb fighters, the problem is with the possible exception of de la Hoya (even that is debatable) not one of them is a household name outside of boxing households; that was not the case with Leonard, Hagler, Hearns and Duran in the 80s...
     
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  14. Illmatic

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    Johnson, Wright, Tarver
     
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  15. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Johnson and Tarver are not future hall of famers, let alone great fighters. Winky Wright was a great light middleweight, not a great middleweight as Hopkins was. Plus, they were fighting at 170.
     
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