The fact that Bivol beat Canelo means jack **** against Beterbiev

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  1. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    That’s a bit hyperbolic lol. Fury would have to lose like 60-100 pounds to get to cruiser. Bivol and Beterbiev would be going down 7 pounds.
     
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  2. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Can a 37 year old man come forward non stop for 12 hard rounds? I don't know. A younger Beterbiev was a monster.
     
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    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    LOL
     
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  4. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    By and large I agree, even at his age now I’d still pick Beterbiev to beat both Bivol and Canelo
     
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  5. Stiff Jab

    Stiff Jab Despiser of Super-Middleweights Full Member

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    The Reynoso "Beef and Tea" diet plan certainly helps.
     
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  6. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    This. Beterbiev is a genetic freak. Skill is only one aspect of the sport. Heart, power and chin also matter.
     
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  7. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Gvozdyk had anymore mental toughness he may have died that night. Did he not end up in hospital with a brain bleed.
     
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    The weight difference between Bivol and Clenelo is roughly about the same as it is between Bivol and Beterbiev

    Clen 178-180

    Bivol 183

    And Clenelo is not a 160 pounder. He's a 168 pounder

    Bivol weighs a whole weight division less if not more than almost all the LHWs he's fought

    Bivol 181 - Pascal 188

    Bivol 180 - Agnew 186

    Bivol 184 - Chilemba 189

    Joe Smith comes in at 190 or close to that

    Salamov has got to weigh at least that

    Richards must be close to 190 too
     
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  9. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It was more to do with him saying 160.
     
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  10. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    Here we go with the fetishizing Beterbiev's strength again. :lol:

    No, he isn't.


    But, yes, it's a different and harder fight, which is rather stating the obvious.
     
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  11. Steve_Fox

    Steve_Fox Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yes , i dont know if Bivol has fought anyone like Beterviev
     
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  12. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Beterbiev is much physically stronger which is a crucial factor in the fight. He also keeps his hands up and his chin tucked. It is very wise to protect your chin from getting punched in professional boxing.
     
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  14. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    Canelo is defensively much more sophisticated than Beterbiev, has more tricks in that bag. I feel that Beterbiev should beat Bivol (though the latter may catch him at the right time), but it won't be because he's harder to hit than Canelo.

    We all know Beterbiev is a very strong 175 lber, man. :lol:
     
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  15. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    It doesn't matter if Canelo is more defensive sophisticated. Beterbiev has a strong guard. Defense can sometimes be made way too complicated. The important thing is to keep your opponent from ramming his fist into your face as hard as possible. So with that said, it is very important to keep your hands up and chin tucked. Canelo never got the memo. Beterbiev did.
     
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