The fact that Wlad Klitschko is still #2 on the P4P list is a TRAVESTY

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  1. Russian_Glass

    Russian_Glass Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So, let me get this straight, Wlad barely beats a maintenance man in Jennings (IntentionalButt had the fight 114-113 to Klitschko), yet he is still #2 on the P4P list? Why?

    I would argue that Rigondeaux, Lara and even Loma should be ranked higher than the current version of Wlad.

    Don't get me wrong, I respect Wlad's accomplishments and do not really have anything against him being on the P4P list. However, this slow, jab-less, 40-year-old version of Wladimir Klitschko does not deserve a second place on the P4P list.

    Agree?
     
    Russian_Glass, Jun 19, 2015
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  2. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Must be especially hard knowing his hope Deontay is a chin taped fraud.
     
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  3. Leoh

    Leoh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The last time Wlad lost a fight, in 2004, the guys you listed to be ranked over Wlad hasn't even debuted at pro yet.
     
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  4. Russian_Glass

    Russian_Glass Well-Known Member Full Member

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    IntentionalButt had the fight 114-113 to Klitschko. Are you implying that Mr. IntentionalButt doesn't know how to score a fight? :huh
     
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  5. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought he was off on this one.
     
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  6. Russian_Glass

    Russian_Glass Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Quick history lesson: Lennox Lewis, who not only accomplished more, but was also a much better all-around fighter than Wlad, was never ranked higher than #3 on the P4P list.

    So why should this old, past his prime version of Wlad be ranked #2? :huh
     
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  7. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lewis is better, but his reign was never nearly as long. At some point, you respect the reign.
     
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  8. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    He's been more dominant than Floyd Mayweather in his division for just as long and that's how most people do those kinds of ratings. Putting a series of title defenses or just regular victories is what some people think that the p4p list should be. Personally, I think that even though both are yet to be dethroned, they've looked better, and there are actually younger less accomplished guys who are better fighters pound for pound.
     
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  9. Console Command

    Console Command Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What did lomachenko do that is more deserving than Wlado? He beat some unknown thai with a padded record recently & had a tune up in his last fight.

    Lara lost to Alvarez & mostly did nothing recently except that.

    Rigondeaux is packing some cuban glass & is inactive.
     
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  10. Leoh

    Leoh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I just noticed I've voted Absolutely NOT by mistake lol. Although it serves right, I think he should be #1 since he never won a fight by way of robbery.
     
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  11. Russian_Glass

    Russian_Glass Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So when do we stop "respecting" the reign? What if a slow as molasses, 41-year-old Wlad barely beats a HW outside top 100? Would he still deserve his #2 spot on the P4P list just because of his longevity?

    By the way, not only Lewis fought in a much better era, but his win over Vitali trumps everything that Wlad has done in his entire career :deal
     
    Russian_Glass, Jun 19, 2015
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  12. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    For once we disagreed, that was a terrible score from him on that one.
     
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  13. Russian_Glass

    Russian_Glass Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wlad above Mayweather?? Now I've seen it all :-(

    By the way, what about the Wlad vs. DaVarryl Williamson fight? There was definitely some controversy here.
     
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  14. Leoh

    Leoh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think 116-111 was reasonable with that fight. Still a closer fight than any single Wlad fight over the last decade.
     
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  15. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    For the record he proper score for Wlad-Jennings was mine. 117-110 Wlad lost 2 rounds and the point deduction, there is no other way to score the fight.:deal
     
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