The factor of size in fighting

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  1. Ali4life

    Ali4life Member Full Member

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    Constantly I see the issue of size brought up in terms of fighting (I've noticed this a lot with heavyweight threads) so let me ask you these questions ESB as to get different people's perspectives: How big of a factor is size in a fight? Is being the bigger fighter always an advantage? Is being the smaller fighter always a disadvantage? What is your position on this and why?
     
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  3. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    I honestly sometimes prefer being a smaller fighter.
     
  4. Size doesn't matter. It can be good for a fighter or bad depending on the fighter himself.
     
  5. thistle1

    thistle1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    of course it _ucken matters,

    if you're talking an inch or two then No. But it can matter the difference between two different weights ultimately.

    the first and obvious problem is Height & Reach, restricting a fighter getting near the other.

    the second problem is weight & strength, which can be a dangerously crucial problem...

    now if the bigger chap is limited skill wise then things are equalized, BUT at TOP Level, this is always an advantage to the bigger fighter, it's no longer even playing fields then is it!

    this is why we need a S-HW division, among the big boys!
     
  6. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    No you don't you prefer fighting slower fighters :lol:
     
  7. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    :lol::lol:

    yes thats true
     
  8. Ali4life

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    Size and Reach is a factor not disputing that but when it comes to skill and will it can determine how much of an advantage it is sometimes the smaller fighter can make it so that the larger fighters advantage also becomes their disadvantage as well. Like Charlie Goldman saying you make a tall fighter look taller and a short fighter shorter. It could go both ways. Some would say a larger man is slower but that can be countered by the fact that guys like Ali, Wlad, and even a Buster Douglas could move well for their size. Or the fact that a lot of big fighters aren't considered great inside fighters when you have the likes of Bowe who proved his infighting skills for his size. The problem occurs when a person equates their size to certain attributes. Just because a man is larger doesn't mean that he has overwhelming strength or a hard punch because we've seen some weak punchers who are big and we've seen some small ones who are strong for their size who have even pushed around some larger men. So there is two sides of the coin that you could go either way on but nothing is absolute in the fight game or impossible
     
  9. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Like who ?
    This is intriguing .
     
  10. Ali4life

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    well if we want to get into some known fighters from different accounts, I've never seen Joe Louis really have any problem pushing some of his larger opponents, on film and by other accounts Jack Dempsey has muscled some large men but struggled in sparing sessions with the likes of Gerb. even Holyfield who started off at Crusierweight and grew into a small heavyweight did it to some large fighters(except for Foreman of course and expended energy doing it to Bowe). Joe Barbados Walccot who was a welterweight with a short height but had strength and punching power was beating fighters from welterweight all the way up to heavyweight. As stated it's dependent upon the fighters that compete with each other where their skill set is and their will more so than their size alone.
     
  11. Ali4life

    Ali4life Member Full Member

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    that was in reference to frankenfrank
     
  12. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Why are there weight divisions ?

    Because size matters.

    That being established it is not by any means always a determining factor however . Styles are extremely important ... it all depends on the strengths and range of game of the participants ...
     
  13. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Like who ?
    Like who ?
    Struggled stylistically , technically , but not physically .
    Holyfield tried and failed doing it to Bowe , Lewis and of course Valuev .
    In Foreman's case he was smart enough 2 not even try .


    R u sure that Joe Walcott pushed larger men ?
     
  14. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Depends. In regards to height, in some cases that just gives the shorter fighter more real estate to pound away at.
     
  15. janitor

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    It is a verry important factor, but people over value it.

    Historicaly, the orthodoxy in boxing has always been built around the current champion, who at this time is a super heavyweight.

    Now personaly, I don't think that there is any heavyweight today outside the Klitschko family, who the cruiserweights need a seperate weight class to protect them from.