The Fearless Harry Greb by Bill Paxton

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  1. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    I got this off Amazon and have to say its good so far. I never really learned as much about this guy as I could have. Pretty detailed account of his fights, round by round. I knew he was a rough and wild fighter who fought everyone but I underestimated just how skilled Greb was.
    He had a terrific chin but his speed and defense not mention his agility. Before reading this book pictured Greb as like a better version of LaMotta but that was selling him far too short. One opponent called Greb a "contortionist". That would suggest he was agile and slippery. Tough to hit clean.
    So he was offensively unstoppable and defensively above average.
    According to this writer Dempsey really didn't want any smoke with this guy. Before he was champ as well as during. They did spar ofcourse Greb busted Dempsey up.
    Harry Greb seems like a stand up guy. He lost some fights early on. He was even knocked out cold his first year. He made no excuses and kept fighting. He would fight guys 3,4 5 times. He didnt draw the color line even after he got a name. He fought Jack Blackburn when Jack was fresh out of prison. He overcame some health problems. He went into WW1.
    I'm becoming more of a fan just as I get into the main part of his career. Just some thoughts as I learn more about a guy many rank the best boxer.
     
  2. Indefatigable

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    I liked it. I wish someone wrote a book about Jack Blackburn. What a life he led.
     
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  3. George Crowcroft

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    I envision Greb as a pseudo Vito/Fullmer crossbreed, but with unnatural speed and flashes of Basilio-esque head-movement. Being able to beat the men he beat, he'd have to be a superhero - which seems likely.

    I'm gonna reread Springs Toledo's book on him at some point this week. I love Greb's character and personality, as well as learning about his career.
     
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  4. BCS8

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    I've always thought somebody like Calzaghe with Derevyanchenko's footwork and Byrd's defence.
     
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  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    That sounds absolutely mental :lol:
     
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  6. George forearm

    George forearm The forearm of George Full Member

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    Great book, red it last year cleard up some misconceptions I had about greb
     
  7. ETM

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    He would use his speed to get in and then he was gone. Greb was able to dominate from the outside. That is not the image I expected when I thought of him. My image of Dempsey isn't what it was even 10 years ago.
     
  8. ETM

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    Calzaghe the is a good mention. He was pretty aggressive and tough to hit square.
     
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  9. George Crowcroft

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    Sounds a bit like Pacquiao in that regard
     
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  10. ETM

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    Like a Manny with more agility? A cross between Pacquiao and Mayweather? That would explain how he beat everybody's ass and won close to 300 fights.
     
  11. shza

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    After seeing his shadowboxing, that's the comparison I made, like Loma or Pac with less power, stranger angles, and more defensive responsibility... People criticize that video, but you can see how he sits down on random punches in the middle of a flurry, which had to be really annoying for guys who fought him.
     
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  12. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Agree
     
  13. Chuck1052

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    In comparison to Bill Paxton's "The Fearless Harry Greb," the Greb biography, "Live Fast, Die Young," written by Steve Compton, is vastly superior.

    - Chuck Johnston
     
  14. FrankinDallas

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    Compton's book is the only one you need about Greb, if you have only one choice.
     
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  15. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    I didn't like the book. Matter of fact I gave it away. If I remember correctly the author still presented some Greb myths as facts and there was nothing on his personal life. Big disappointment for me
     
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