The Featherweights are in trouble vs. Pelenchin Caballero!

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  1. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Can't believe how most fans overlook this guy or give him a hard time when in fact he's a real fans' fighter with some serious tools. Maybe his Ring P4P position is not justified, maybe he's too awkward or not flashy enough for your taste, but I'd easily put him on Paul Williams' level of "elite freaks", only with a more aggressive style and Vitaliesque phycho mentality. He just loves to fight and give you a lot back if you hit him. He looked already damn good schooling Ponce De Leon and blowing out champions Somsak Sithchatchawal and Molitor in their hometown, but as all awkward boxers, some styles made them look bad, and he actually lost to some years back. Of course, he could meet his Carlos Quintana at featherweight, but now that he teamed up with Jeff Mayweather, beating Caballero will be much harder than before. After a short time together, it seems he controls distance better, threw some nasty hooks catching Yordan coming in, mixes it up beautifully - and his chin looks more solid at the more natural featherweight.

    Here's the good news for the division: Yordan, a pretty decent kid who troubled Robert Guerrero, was able to land some crisp bombs on Caballero who's defense is far from perfect, but here's the bad news: Yordan still lost pretty much every single round and recieved a serious beating in the process. Celestino has good sense of distance, handspeed, body punching and footwork, and with that serious height advantage plus very high workrate, he's as much a headache as Paul Williams at welterweight, even though they styles differ.

    How would other featherweights fair vs. Pelenchin? Lopez isn't the fastest or most mobile guy out there and could be troubled by Caballero's reach, output, toughness and smart punch selection as Celestino isn't easy to hit if he's less offensive and more boxing minded, and that's what Mayweather is working on. But Lopez packs a great punch and and accuracy to trouble Celestino who has been stopped before. But first of all you gotta figure out the style, and what happens after 6-7 rounds if Lopez can't, and his stamina and reflexes starting to suffer? Serious trouble. Lopez' best chance is an early stoppage or a serious beating to slow Cab down for the 2nd half of the fight. But neither he or his team ever wanted to get close to Pelenchin and you gotta wonder why.

    Chris John is a very quick, slick, mobile and smart boxer with elite skills and almost equally long arms as Cab, so he might be able to actually outbox Pelencin at distance who would have to find success on the inside, but John is very hard to find there too. On the other hand, Chris doesn't have the power to stop Caballero's trying all 12 rounds, throwing 1200 punches, so even for a clear decision John would have to go through hell. It is a very interesting fight.

    Gamboa is all speed and power, and speed and power could trouble Caballero, especially as Cuban fighters are so good with counter-aggression. But unfortunately for Gamboa, a short handed FW, Caballero is no small and raw Mtagwa, and Pelenchin is so effective fighting long that he could outwork Yuri from distance, jab and movement all night, throwing hooks when Gamboa comes in and grab. So Yuri would have to cut down the ring smart, and work out of clinches to set up the money body-to-head short combo, and he might take too much damage in the process, at least if he fights the way he fought Barros, I was not satisfied with his overall performance there.


    So all in all, Caballero loves a great fight, he's cocky, he's a badmouth, he's a warrior, but also a pretty good boxer with a nightmare style and reach - definitely not someone to overlook, in fact, he's a guy to watch, unless you are a rival featherweight. Sure someone could - and at some point most likely will - figure out the style and get to him, but it's easier said than done if you have to deal with 1200 looong punches coming back. The Featherweight division is very deep now, but Bob Arum and Oscar better let their boys bang it out inside the ring!
     
  2. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I like him a lot, and I love to watch guys who have that much dimension to their game. In fact I watched the fight again on Sunday. The only problem was that Yourdan is a two trick pony. He threw two punches, a lefthook and an occasional righthand. No jab, nothing, so Cabellero looked great against him. Id like to see him against some better fighters as well and Im sure HBO is thinking the same thing.
     
  3. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I didn't read your entire post, but this is pretty much what I think of Cab. He doesn't do everything by the book, but his height, workrate, power, heart, and mental makeup make him a nightmare opponent. He's the type of guy that you don't fight unless you have to.
     
  4. Borincano

    Borincano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have to see him again at 126. I thought he left his self wide open too many times. Even Yordan caught him with the same left hook he was throwing all night. Gamboa would have had him in trouble. They should put him in with John. Don't get me wrong, he is a hell of a fighter. I really like that uppercut he threw that dropped Yordan. Real nice.
     
  5. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    HE looked alot better than the last time i saw him. I predicted that Yordan would stop him as he looked damn good against Guerrero and Caba has never impressed me. He did this time though. He has a very good body attack which is good.

    However i still dont think he beats Gamboa or Lopez. Lopez must not be too confident though if he keeps avoiding him.
     
  6. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    I think he justified his p4p spot
     
  7. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    His phisical attributes combined with his awkward style and his toughness makes him a difficult fight for any featherweight in the world but i wouldnt pick him to beat Gamboa or Juanma.
     
  8. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    How many body shots did he land in those fights? Holl-ee ****.

    One thing. Although he never seemed to get out of second gear, and that's noted, it surprised me that he couldn't take Yordan out given how often he was able to land. Yordan is as tough as they get and i'll not dispute that, but he was landing almost at will. When Caballero got stung at the end there, Yordan couldn't even follow up properly. He was utterly exhausted. I guess what i'm saying is, how do we feel about his power now?
     
  9. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    I thought he looked powerful even his jab was earning respect.

    The thing is, damage has alot to do with where you land your punches. The only place Yordan was giving Caba was his right side just below the ribs. Not much debilitating damage to be done there.
     
  10. EpsilonAxis

    EpsilonAxis HNIC Full Member

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    He fights almost exactly like an orthodox Paul Williams. Almost exactly.
     
  11. McGrain

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  12. PH|LLA

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    left side is waht I meant to say

    damage definately has alot to do with where you land your punches. Almost as much if not more than punching power.
     
  13. puertorricane

    puertorricane Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I didnt read your whole dick slurping post but honestly caballero is a regular fighter he's nothing special.. the only advantage he has is his height but his jab is not great so that negates that advantage.. he is a volume puncher and works hard i'll give him that but he doesnt punch hard and doenst know how to throw correct punches.. his style is also boring that's why fans give him a hard time

    :hat