THE fight of Ali's you would point to....

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  1. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Honestly, I don´t think anyone. He looked amazing in quite a few fights but not as "possesed" as Dempsey in Toledo, Louis against Schmling in their second encounter, Duran against Leonard the first time around, Frazier in the fotc. Those performances are very, very rare. Ali has more performances where he is at his best than any other hw including Louis though. But none where I would say he was unbeatable.
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    wot
     
  3. ron u.k.

    ron u.k. Boxing Addict banned

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    Did you see him?
     
  4. Senor Pepe'

    Senor Pepe' Boxing Junkie banned

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    Too many point to the Cleveland Williams fight.

    But, Cleveland was 'no test'.

    He wasn't even rated in the Top 20 of the Heavyweights.

    For God's Sake, only a few months earlier he was floored and nearly knocked out in the 'First Round' by Bennie Black.

    It took Muhammad Ali longer to floor Cleveland.

    The win over Cleveland Williams was just that, a win, 'nothing more and nothing less'.
     
  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    You're saying he was unranked by Ring at the time of that title shot?
     
  6. the cobra

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  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Terrell would be my second choice, I think he's just as perfect in that one as he is in Williams but shows more. Folley, Terrell, Williams, pretty interchangeable imo, but I give the edge to the Folly performance due to the tactical maturity.
     
  8. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Terrell for me. He was bigger than Ali and a legitimate number one type guy. There were no mitigating factors: Terrell was in his prime and uninjured. And Ali simply eviscerated him.

    I would rank the first Liston fight next. The only thing that keeps this from the top its the stank from tee second fight and the fact that Sonny may have been a little past hits best. But Ali (not for the last time in his career against a top.15 heavyweight) outclassed him, fairly easily. I'm not sure any heavyweight best a fellow ATG as effortlessly as Ali did in Miami.
     
  9. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Definitely Cleveland Williams and Zora Folley fight plus numerous others.
     
  10. natonic

    natonic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Didn't Williams have a bullett in him by that point? But regardless, I believe Ali was primed that night and it really didn't matter who was in front of him.
     
  11. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yep ! Ali was just coming into his awesome prime.
     
  12. guilalah

    guilalah Well-Known Member Full Member

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    "THE fight of Ali's you would point to....
    as the fight nobody or virtually nobody would've beaten him that night."

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    Do you mean 'no one at that time', or 'no one ever'? If the latter, my answer is:


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  13. groove

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    williams - many would've ended busted up like him in the ring - his movement, shuffle and combos were at another level. from mar 66 to mar 67 ali defended his title 7 times.
     
  14. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Last night when I was looking at this thread for the first time, I was surprised not to see more people naming the Terrell fight. There are probably only a handful of occasions where an ATG came into the ring in that kind of shape, that motivated, at one of the highest points of his prime and performed on that level.

    I can't think of many fighters that would have been able to avoid getting their clock cleaned against him that night.
     
  15. Brownies

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    Not against Cleveland Williams, who was a corpse that night. I'd answer Liston 1 or Terrell... maybe Patterson I.