The Fitzsimmons v Ruhlin Fight Was Not Filmed!

I make the statement that the real fight between Bob Fitzsimmons and Gus Ruhlin was not filmed.It was intended to be but the camera equipment failed.
I cite the following to back up,my statement.


"It had been intended to take a cinematograph version of the Fitzsimmons v Ruhlin contest, but because of a technical breakdown,nothing materialized.
It was therefore proposed that the two men should go through the motions in a day or so's time ,so that a fake film could be made as had been done for earlier fights when there had been a machine-something that could be done with impunity in the early days of moving pictures.
While Fitzsimmons was ready for a replay ,his facial disfigurements being hidden easily under grease- paint, it was a different matter with Ruhlin.

He was in such a weak physical state at the end of the contest that it was found necessary to put him to bed in the "Garden",where he remained all night.
The following day he was taken to Billy Madden's cottage in South Brooklyn,where he stayed for several days, before being fit enough to face the camera.
The fight film was shown to enthusiastic audiences through-out America,and in England until someone spotted the fraud by pointing out the absence of Jim Corbett from Ruhlin's corner.
Gentleman Jim had returned home to San Francisco and would not comeback,nor did he wish to be involved in the fake.
H ehad been so obviously active through-out the contest that his non -appearance in the moving picture of the fight proved beyond doubt that it was spurious. " "The Fighting Black Smith " pages 180 and 181. By Gilbert Odd


And again I cite this as conclusive proof the real fight was not filmed.Kindly provided byAdam Pollack , the very respected author of boxing biographies on the heavyweight champions ,[including one on Fitzsimmons].

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Page 122 gives the relevant information.
I quote.
"Although the leading vaudeville agent William Morris and major exhibitors such as Oscar Hammerstein booked the Fitzsimmons and Ruhlin Fight Pictures for several weeks in August and September the fight in the Garden was not what the pictures showed .
Instead the supposedly authentic film was actually taken by Lubin.
The difference with the reproduction however was that the original participants travelled to Philadelphia immediately after the bout to re-enact the 6 rounds contest themselves.
The screen presence of the real Fitzsimmons and Ruhlin allowed Lubin's fake to pass off as legitimate."

This link gives a brief resume of Lubin.
http://victorian-cinema.net/lubin


This is what Mendoza will produce as his "proof "that the real fight was filmed.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0302719/
You will note that it is headed as training pictures and also that it comes from Lubin's catalogue.Lubin being the man I have proved with my link ,made the fake fight.

Mendoza and I had a cash bet on this fight I said it was not filmed he said it was I believe I have proved I am right and that I have won the bet. If I was not certain of my rightness in this argument I would not have made this thread.
When I produced my evidence he weaselled out of paying up ,proving he is both a liar and a bet welcher.
I don't want the money but I think an apology and an admission of wrong should be forthcoming from him.


I await his reply with interest!

 

The fight was NOT filmed what was filmed was a.
RE_ENACTMENT By Siegmund Lubin in Philadelphia the real fight was held in New York at Madison Square Garden .
That link has Lubin's name on it

The underlined is just about the most shameless and blatant weaselling out of a bet I have ever come across.
How can you look at yourself in the mirror?

As I predicted you produced the same link as I said you would
You are exposed as a.
LIAR AND A BET WELCHER.
I hope anyone who reads this now knows what a piece of sewage you are.