The Floyd that beat Angel Manfredy is the ONLY one that could take Manny Pacquiao NOW

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  1. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I tried to time each fighter using footage and slowing it down into nano-seconds. The Footwork of Floyd in 1998-1999 is equal to the footwork of Manny 2009. Floyd is far behind in terms of footwork, speed and energy. This would be a tough stylistic matchup for Floyd.

    Has Floyd aged more than people give him credit for ?

    I do believe a prime Mayweather edges out Manny but I don't see how Floyd having lost a step has any advantage whatsoever in 2011 and beyond.

    Floyd's speed is a giant part of his game and it is not that of his prime and only slowing down. If he faces Manny going to be very dangerous for him.
     
  2. Boxing Fanatic

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    he got caught by old arse mosley. lucky mosley is a 152 years old. that is why floyd wants drug testing all the way up to the fight so pac wont have any advantages over him as in youth, speed, etc. he is a snake by imposing this strict drug testing. he does it for a reason. the guy always has to have all the advantages. it is the way floyd rolls.
     
  3. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is true. Fighting at 34 was probably not in his game plan. Before he was 27 he had a 90% chance to beat anybody in the game and a good chance to beat anybody all time. Floyd in his prime is a top 50 ATG.
     
  4. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why does PBF need foot speed so bad? He normally stands in place and makes you miss while he is standing in one spot. So his game does not rely on foot speed like Pac which is jumping in and out.

    How about his counter punching skill?
    Hand Speed?
    overall boxing skill?
    Size?

    Are those enough advantages to beat the mighty Pac?? And yes i think PBF is faster with single shots.
    You are right though. that PBF from the Manfreddo fight was a beast and probably would TKO Pac. The PBF more than likely takes a UD dropping Pac a few times along the way.
     
  5. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    You are linking foot work and foot speed together. Floyd has the best foot work in boxing hands down. He has slowed a tad bit with his foot speed though which doesn't matter bc he can overcome that.
     
  6. jas

    jas ★ Legends: B-HOP ; PAC ★ Full Member

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    most people dont know chit about boxing but this guy does
     
  7. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    That was back when I was a fan of Floyd. I remember cheering when he started pummeling that piece of **** Manfredy on the ropes.
     
  8. gooners!!

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    The more stationary Mayweather becomes, the better shot Manny has, I guess it just comes down to your interpretation of whether he can still use his legs enough to offset Manny.

    If Floyd had a bit more power, maybe he could stand his ground more, use less footmovement cause he can keep his opponent in their place, reluctant to keep stepping to him, but maybe that lack of power might be why he needs his legs more to offset Manny? although having said that, I wouldn't rule out Mayweather's ability to hurt Manny momentarily.
     
  9. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd has an inside game. Pacquiao doesn't. A bit more complicated than that, but ultimately distance will decide this one.
     
  10. gooners!!

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    Manny has a southpaw stance, which means staying inclose, you have the potential to bend into his power hand, and he's relentless with offense.
     
  11. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Yes, but on the inside the Southpaw stance is a non issue bc both fighters square up Gooner.
     
  12. oibighead

    oibighead G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    thing is its not so much floyds speed but his timing

    He wasnt expecting mosley to throw those shots...

    He will be expecting pac to be throwing hundreds a round
     
  13. Knives7

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    :rofl:rofl
     
  14. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're about to see an old, inactive Mayweather whoop his ass in November.
     
  15. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd is a little more versatile to have problems with Manny's stance, he does every inside move and trick by the book except maybe for head butting, so he's hardly gonna "bend into Manny's power hand". The challenge would be handling Manny's footwork, output and intensity, though Floyd has tremendous stamina himself, just rarely pushed into a high energy fight to show it off.

    The way I see it, Manny MUST keep the fight outside or else, once Floyd gets in Pac will be exposed as a defensively very flawed fighter (at that range) with the sole ability to brawl back. That won't work vs. Floyd who's just as good defensively there. So it comes down if there's a well timed shot to somehow catch Floyd moving in - that's some serious headache in the Wild Card to get rid of, and learning some dirty inside moves wouldn't hurt Manny's chances either.

    As far as I'm concerned, Floyd's ability to effectively box on the inside decides the tight outcome in his favor.