The Floyd that beat Angel Manfredy is the ONLY one that could take Manny Pacquiao NOW

I think people are going to be shocked by the boxing lesson Floyd is going to give Manny. Everything Manny brings to the table can be stripped away from him. Anyone that has boxed as an amateur or pro knows that there are ways to neutralize speed, zap power, and kill confidence and Floyd will do those things. Manny needs a knockout to win.

 

How do you measure speed of foot? What was the criteria? Distance over time?

I can see hand speed being easy but I'm curious how went about measuring the rest.

 

Floyd's feet are still very fast and Manny is going to have to close the distance on a guy that can time the **** out of him, pop him and still be out of range .

 

Manny's been KO'ing fools to win since he started fighting.

The silence when Floyd gets floored is going to be golden. Don't underestimate Pac's infighting skills. southpaw and orthodox means their's gonna be a lot of headbutts. Don't be surprised to see Floyd headbutt him a few times when thingns don't go his way.

 

Yes like Mayweather is known for head butting his opponents. LMAO @ YOU. I don't underestimate anyone but the fact is, Manny is not a great inside fighter. Name me one fighter trained by Roach at the moment that can fight on the inside? I will be waiting.

 

James Toney..atsch

 

Floyd has all the tools to outbox Pac and make him look silly -- I would bet on him in a matchup between those two even now. However, it could just as easily backfire horribly. I sure as hell didn't think Shane would be able to land bombs like that in the second round...and even Marquez was able to hit Floyd when he was against the ropes.

I don't think Pac necessarily needs a KO to win. The problem with Floyd is that he's so safety first that he tries to coast on a low output. Floyd, like any other fighter, has a comfort zone. Floyd's comfort zone is simple -- he likes a slow-paced chess match, where he can use his smarts, skills and speed to baffle you and take you apart piece by piece. What doesn't he like? He doesn't like being rushed/pressured, no matter what he says. It gives him less time to think things through, and it puts mental stress on him and takes him out of his comfort zone. (He's lucky that Hatton is so utterly crude.)

He doesn't like dealing with speed. Who does? When he comes across someone who can hit hard and fast, he often uses the high guard instead of the shoulder-roll. He's not as comfortable using this guard as he is using his normal one, and it leaves him open for bodyshots, as Judah showed us. It limits his vision and mobility, which is a big problem against someone as fast on his feet as Pac, who loves to turn people and then hit them, only to turn again. Pac's combinations and stamina are another bad point for Floyd -- because of his low output, he depends on the other guy having a similarly low output. Hoya was able to make it a close fight with combinations, but he tired, as Floyd knew he would. Pac won't tire, and he can keep throwing right up until round twelve. That's a scary prospect for someone who likes to pot-shot and play it safe.

Then there's the southpaw stance to consider...

I still bet on Floyd to win, but I don't think Pac needs to KO him to beat him. He can make things very difficult for Floyd, and win on workrate, if nothing else -- finishing what Hoya started.

If the fight ever happens, I think Pac manages to land big shots in one of the opening rounds, while Floyd is still analysing his speed/style. This will make Floyd go on the offensive and 'turn into a dragon', as Naz put it. Pac will start getting pasted with shots and counters, and he'll respond bravely with furious combinations of his own. After this point, I don't know how it will go...either Floyd will just keep upping the gears and outboxing Pac with aggressive intent, or Pac will find a way to make Floyd respect him (only a KD or really big punch would do it, I think) and thus take charge of the fight. It's more likely that Floyd will beat him into submission, as he has done to so many people now, but Pac definitely has a chance. Wish this fight would happen before they both get older...

 

Roach didn't train Toney to fight on the inside. Don't you know that?

 

Think Floyd gameplan would be : dont get hit. He gonna start winning round by get some jabs into Pacs face. Later on Pac will be more impatient and chancing. Then Floyd taking more chances (not too many) making Pac do mistakes.
We know Pacs punchingpower and Floyds chin not the best so there are hope for Pac.

 

Mayweather beats Pacquiao anywhere from 130-154 IMO.

 

You talk of floyds last 2 fights but In pacquiaos last 4 or so fights he has LOOKED great against men who either just plodded forward, had next to nothing In the defence department or a combination of the two, mayweather couldn't be any further Down the scale

 

Are you fkn serious ?

Beating Pacquiao goes a long way to Mayweather being a legit ATG in terms of proven ability vs another ATG but he`s still a fair bit off guys like Ray Robinson..... beating Manny Pacquiao does not propell you above Sugar Ray Robinson, lets not get crazy here.

 

If he beats Pac, he beats everyone Manny beaten. Floyd has a case to be the goat.