"The Formidables": Who were the greatest fighting machines in history?

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  1. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    On a particular night, which 5 fighters would you rate as the most formidable, as in "hardest to beat", ever? Include what specific fight where you feel everything just fired on all cylinders for that fighter, making them near-indomitable.

    (These do not necessarily have to be elite or even great boxers.)
    (Rank them 1 through 5 as best you can.)
     
  2. Russell

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    Ali of the Cleveland Williams fight is a good pick. It all just seemed to come together that night.

    Frazier on the night of the FOTC.

    Bernard Hopkin's of the Glen Johnson fight, maybe.
     
  3. salsanchezfan

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    Julio Cesar Chavez, the night he fought Edwin Rosario

    Joe Louis, for Schmeling II

    Pernell Whitaker against Azumah Nelson

    Holyfield at cruiser; take your pick.....Parkey, Qawi II, any of the title defenses.

    Kind of a weird choice, but Lionel Rose against Harada. He was nothing short of brilliant against a truly great fighter.
     
  4. Russell

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    I disagree.

    I've always felt that Schmeling was beaten before he stepped into the ring that night.

    He had the entire United States and then some against him, the unwilling aryan superman of the Nazi party.

    And for some insane reason his managers and handlers let the fight take place in hostile territory.
     
  5. salsanchezfan

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    ...........I dunno meng. I give the guy a bit moe credit for having a stout mental state about him. He'd had to deal with that nazi crap for a while before this fight, and he was also armed with the knowledge that he'd beaten Louis once already. How devoid of confidence could he have been?
     
  6. Russell

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    I guess I just want to give Schmeling the benefit of the doubt, getting blown out like that.

    How many times did he have to deal with the Nazi situation when the entire world was listening in, in maybe the biggest match since Jeffries/Johnson, with Schmeling playing the unwilling part of Johnson in a situation every bit as inhospitable?
     
  7. salsanchezfan

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    ............Fair points.
     
  8. Mike T

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    Hearns at 154 during the Duran fight.
     
  9. Russell

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    Amazing performance by Hearns, but I attribute it more to Duran being lazy like he often was in the 80's.
     
  10. Stonehands89

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    1. Ezzard Charles... against Archie Moore III. A "terrific pace" was set and after he got shook up in the 8th, he landed "a volley of left hooks and finished off Archie with a right."
     
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    I'll throw in Gomez of the Zarate fight.
     
  12. Stonehands89

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    Why not Greb from Tunney I?
     
  13. Stonehands89

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    2. Armstrong vs. Montanez. 1940. Montanez had been neither stopped nor down before this -in about 100 fights. He was stopped in 9 and dropped about 5 times by Hank. Fleischer counted 73 landed shots in round 4 and had never seen Armstrong faster or better and that included the Ross fight.
     
  14. Stonehands89

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    Great to see Rose in there. He's a forgotten man here in the U.S.
     
  15. salsanchezfan

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    ...........I must admit having seen only this one, but have Olivares-Rose on the way (though not his best moment of course). If you look at his resume, it's really pretty good. A smoother, more intrinsic boxer I've rarely seen.