The Fury vs. K2 Debate Thread

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  1. gdm

    gdm Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    prime wlad KO Fury
    prime vitali TKO Fury
     
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  2. Naked Snake

    Naked Snake Active Member Full Member

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    Even if he'd won that fight, Holy was coming off like three consecutive defeats. The NYSAC were so concerned about him that they suspended his licence for 21 months.
    Vitali said here he didn't want to fight Holyfield because he admired him so much. I can't imagine Wlad felt much different.
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  3. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    I'm quite glad they didn't fight Holy, he'd taken enough.
     
  4. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    I always enjoyed watching Vitaly.


    I was a modest defender of Wlad, while not a categorical 'fan' per se. I thought the flack he drew circa 2007-2012 was excessive. Some degree of criticism was fair, but there was a lot of obvious bad will and unreasonable, predisposed rhetoric driving the larger part of it.

    I had more of an axe to grind with him after the Povetkin fight, which I thought was a great opportunity for him to show the world something more than he'd had the chance to show up until that point in his championship reign. In my view, he choked and offered up the most farcical performance of his career. It's not as if he hadn't had time to prepare for a stocky guy who possessed footspeed and the ability to combine punches well, but this is what we got;

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    I'm not even one of those guys who hates clinching and the use of one's weight to wear on an opponent, which are a part of the sport. I just observe a distinction between strategic, selective clinching/leaning and whatever Wladimir was doing in that fight (I'm at pains to describe it), which superseded his boxing. Yet and still, some would have it that Wlad is above reproach, while Fury is a "cowardly" strategist.

    I found Wlad to be peevish and spoiled in his dealings with Tyson, also.

    There was this undisguised and very ungracious move;
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    And this rather uncharacteristic outburst;
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    It's forgivable, because Tyson is a very hard guy to deal with.

    So, generally speaking, I don't really have much against the younger Klitschko brother. Putting aside the matter of his elder sibling's presence – and, though it's always frustrating when the two best fighters in a division won't get together, I understand why they couldn't fight – he was the authentic boss of the heavyweight division for several years. He even had some enjoyable moments throughout that reign, despite his reputation for tentativeness; it was fun to watch him pound on Wach when he felt comfortable to open up, looking like an orthodox, 250lb Pacquiao in bursts, and his quick destruction of Pulev made exciting viewing.

    I applauded his brief career as a silent comedian, too;
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  5. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    EE fighters are generally underrated and British or American fighters are overrated.
    Fury just got beat up by Wallin and defeated Wilder and he is a god all of a sudden. It would make more sense to see how his career unfolds until he is compared to ATGs.
    Nobody would even be surprised if Fury is KOed next fight and retires.
     
  6. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Considering the expected trajectory of an (unlanded) uppercut, it's not such a big deal it finds the face of the boxer who threw it. Not sure what points are being made here. Two great fighters found their own whiskers. And?
     
  7. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    Context;

    Fury self-uppercutting in his 4th pro fight was being used as an exhibit to rubbish him by comparison with Wladimir. I pointed out that Wlad had done the very same in his 67th pro bout.

    There's nothing more to it than that.
     
  8. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I like Fury but really? Wlad was champion for years. Fury beat an old Wlad. No way is Fury above him at this at point.
    I wouldn't put him above Vitali.
    This Wilder victory is really getting overrated and it took him two tries officially.