The Fury - Wilder Trilogy?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Where do those fights stand in boxing history?
     
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  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    In terms of magnitude I don’t know if it will rate up there with the likes of an Ali vs Frazier type trilogy but I do believe it will be recalled as a very exciting and memorable series
     
  3. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    In terms of quality?

    Below Ali-Frazier

    Below Holyfield-Bowe

    In those triologies, both guys were very skilled in their respective styles. Frazier was a great body puncher, had excellent stamina, good head movement, excellent footwork vs movers and a big left hook.

    Bowe had power in both hands, excellent body punching, good all round skills.

    Wilder was far more one dimensional compared to Frazier or Bowe.

    So we can't rank the Fury-Wilder triology as highly as Ali-Frazier or Holyfield-Bowe.

    In terms of sheer entertainment? Fury-Wilder is just as entertaining IMO as the two rivalries above. Just not the same skill level due to Wilder's obvious deficiencies.
     
  4. Terror

    Terror free smoke Full Member

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    The Wilder-Fury trilogy was fun, I particularly liked that it was for the real heavyweight championship. A lot of knockdowns, some great moments, but ultimately not that competitive. I feel like over the nearly 30 rounds they shared, Wilder may have won about 2 minutes of the fights in total. The first fight was a boxing lesson with Wilder nearly sealing the deal, the second was a demo job and the third was a combination of the first two--a demolition job with some scary moments and a boxing lesson.

    It was an entertaining rivalry and all 3 fights have something good to watch. Definitely not in the top 10 of rivalries but probably in the top 10 of heavyweight rivalries all things considered.
     
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  5. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Heavyweight slop between a guy who lived by his power and another who lived on his size.
     
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  6. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Absolutely ridiculous.
     
  7. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    They are looking less meaningful as history goes on. If Fury would have split bouts with Usyk or won both they'd be looking like a million dollars but with 2 x losses there are some huge question marks.

    Wilders stock has dropped considerably after Fury's two defeats. Rightly or wrongly people will be questioning even his recent results given he was finally fighting bonafide solid level contenders which he had barely done in his life, except for Fury and to a lesser extent Ortiz.

    Where did he truly stand in the division? There's very very little to go off. It's not like he was fighting the best until Fury rolled him three times in a row. The draw was a disgrace.
     
  8. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not a great trilogy but a pretty good one. The best fight of the series,in my opinion,being the first one,while the second bout was Tyson's best performance.
     
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  9. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    Not historically important but a fun set of slug fests to watch on Christmas morning.
     
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  10. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    I liked the Fury-Usyk fights much more as a competitive rivalry, the first and third Wilder fights were good maybe even great but the Usyk fights were much more high level.
     
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  11. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Significant for this era of heavyweight history, but not close to being on a par with Ali/Frazier or Bowe/Holyfield - perhaps closer to a Patterson/Johansson type affair.

    I agree with @JohnThomas1 to an extent, in so far as questions will be raised about the quality of Wilder (but then, these questions had always been present before and during the trilogy). However, what was and what I suspect will always be widely accepted is that Wilder was one of the most dangerous punchers to lace them up.

    With this in mind, what cannot be taken away from Fury is that he went into a situation with Wilder, following what was effectively a three-year lay off and exposed him - both technically and by surviving his power in dramatic fashion.

    The second fight saw him extend that exposure by becoming the bully that bullied the bully - shattering what was left of Wilder's mystique. Given what had happened in the first bout, it was a gutsy strategy and its only fair that be remembered.

    I think the third fight was unnecessary and more a product of boxing politics, contract law and good old fashioned greed. But it was also the most brutal of the three bouts for both fighters, for mine.


    Personally, I believe the trilogy, and particularly their final bout in the series, done them both in. Neither was the same again, in my opinion.
     
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  12. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I’m around here…although Fury getting up was entertaining completely overblown terrible boxing
     
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  13. KO_King

    KO_King Horizontal Heavyweight Full Member

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    Neither guy was as good as the fans were being sold at the time. But they did produce an exciting and memorable trilogy of fights. This is what they'll both be remembered for.
     
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  14. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    I think it was Ray Arcel that said that anytime you get two willing guys that don't know how to box, you will see a pretty good fight.
    For a very long time I have said that Fury's best skill was looking like he was doing a lot while he was doing nothing. That is how you have a fight where, in 12 rounds 2 guys throw just about 350 punches between them and land about 7 punches per round between them and people consider it a boxing master class.
     
  15. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's sad how Wilder literally only landed a handful of meaningful punches over three fights. It's even sadder that Fury almost got knocked out by such a limited fighter with no set-up to his power.
     
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