The future of boxing in USA

If I were to put my money on the European amateur stars, I would go with Vasyl and Beterbiyev.

 

The Heavyweights might contune to stuugle as long as the top heavyweights are in the 6'5" 230 + range, and the sport may be growng a greater talent pool internationaly in the rest of the weight classes. The American talent pool from cruser-fetherweights will not decrese. The chalenge for American boxing will be the same for boxing allover the world. How to compete in a deeper talent pool.

 

Not really. The majority of top contenders in each weight class are still American. Even at heavyweight 6 of the top 15 contenders are American.

It was probably the same 20 years ago. There was the dominant American champion, then a bunch of European paper titlests and contenders trying to catch up.

Arguably the best fighter from Cruiserweight to welterweight in each division is an American, belo welterweights its not even a contest.

Again prove it in the ring, instead of the meaningless standings and amatuer ranks. Beat the Dawsons, Wards, Mayweathers, Pavliks before you start talking about the fall of boxing in America. Until its just noise that we've heard for the last 10 years.

 

84 was a fantastic olympic team. Now tell me what happened to these American gold medalists from that year:

Paul Gonzales
Steve Mcrory
Henry Tillman
Tyrel Biggs
Jerry Page
Mark Breland
Frank Tate

Olympic success is not a guarantor of professional success, which is why it doesn't turn these guys into national heroes.

 

European Dominance... Warrior these guys are pretty desperate

Dirrell exposed two of their fighters!

Combining all of Europe...

We can do that too... combine North America, The Carribean, and South America. But we don't because we are not desperate..

 

What you do in the amatuers means **** in the pros. Totally different sport.

 

Honestly get on Mexico's and Puerto rico's level. Produce a Miguel Cotto level fighter and then we'll talk.

Hell produce a GAmboa. :rofl

 

Of course an olympic gold medal does not necessarily mean professional success. In fact, todays most impressive young men are guys who just fell short out of making it to the olympic team or basically falling short in the olympic tournament.

People like:

Tim Bradley who actually beat guys like Vaughn Alexander (brother of Devon), Anthony Peterson and many more. Also losing to guys like Berto, Angulo and Martirosyan who were obviously bigger men though.

Devon Alexander who fell short of qualifying after getting a draw against Rock Allen in the qualifier for the olympics.


But all in all, we see these guys at the very least competing, and given the fact that the US is basically a non-entity in the amateurs, must be somewhat concerning. One of the reasons Bradley, Alexander, Dirrell and Ward has seen the success was they all worked hard together in 04' before turning professional.

 

Hell they can't even produce a Humberto Soto...

 

oh, you're the guy that thinks Robert Stieglitz is the true 168 lb champion and Juergen Braehmer is the man at 175.

Oh, you're THAT guy.

LMFAO :hi::hi:

 

The ignorance in this one is very strong.

 

Pros and amateurs are totally different, thats true.

Looking at guys like Librado Andrade and Arthur Abraham is a clear reminder of that. Arthur Abraham was almost a constant losing factor in the amateurs, but always had the power and determination to be a pro, and he got the amateur experience, which is key.

Guys like Devon Alexander and Tim Bradley may not have been international stars in the amateurs, but they sure were brilliant amateurs.

As you look at the American bracket for the Milano games, you just have to be concerned, even 6 years ago it was looking much much better.

 

Paper belts. When Americans talks boxing, we actually talk real belts, the real best

Cruiserwieght - Steve Cunningham
Light Heavyweight - Chad Dawson
Super Middle - Andre Ward or Andre Dirrell
Middleweight - Kelly Pavlik
Light Middle - Spinks or Williams
Welter - Shane Mosley or Floyd Mayweather.

Sorry we dont count Marco Huck and 9-1 Beibut Shumenov as champions. :rofl