I kind of hoped he was playing the WWF villain, but its seems like youre right he really is an *******. He's taking over Cheik Kongo as UFC's most annoying meathead.
Youve clearly lost the plot:-( What the **** are you talking about?? And why are you listing black hockey players? Whats your point?
That the "preceived" more athletic, more explosive fighter doesn't always win. Fighting is more then just physical attributes, it is a combination of physical and mental abilities. What the hell do you think it proves?
Dickhead said something earlier about if blacks choose a sport then they will easily dominate it because the are superior in athletic ability. My point was , they have been playing and are still playing and if they where SO fukin' superior then why are these blacks that play now and played in the past NOT the best players in the league? PS: Hockey was mentioned as one sport they would dominate if they choose to play it.
I will try to slow it down for you. Someone mentioned "blacks" are superior and would dominate MMA once they become interested because of their superior "athletic" ability. I think the rest of us are trying to convince this fukwad that it takes MORE then "atheltic" ability to consistently win in MMA. You obviously think they are superior also, correct?
No this was not the point...It was under the premise that had eveything else been the same, training, work ethic, intelligence..the more athletic (any race!!!) would have a distinct advantage in MMA. This point is indubitable The secondary point is had some of these "athletic' people in other sports chose MMA at a young enough age instead of following the money in other sports, MMA as we know it would have been much better in terms of quality. We would be seeing less of guys like Leben and the guy who fought Velasquez last night because they would unlikely be able cut it.
Do you just read the last posts on threads? Or do you actually read the whole thread? I hope its the former.
It is TOTALLY impossible that EVERYTHING could be the same but if it could of course the person with the better side of the only difference would win. With everything the same the smarter fighter would beat the dumbass, the iron chinned fighter would have the better chance then the china chinned guy. The blackbelt bjj guy beats the brown belt. Of course this is if you took out chance.
Good point , well..sort of. I disagree with the final part of your post. 1 - it's not like MMA is over-saturated with people like Leben to the point where it harms the quality of the sport. 2 - If you disagree with 1 , then you have to use this one sided point of view on every imaginable sports. (i'm sorry but even boxing itself , is filled with tons of bums ) 3 - The first part of your post seems logical to me...but not realistic enough. Are we talking about a human or a cyborg ? I've never seen a "perfect" fighter. There's no such thing... Tyson wasn't one..nor Muhammad Ali , or Vitali , or Calzaghes , RJJ or Lennox...or Fedor , Nogueira , GSP , Anderson , Penn , Aerts , Hoost , Schilt...none of them are perfect. The closest thing to perfection was Aleksander Karelin in Greco. And even he , wasn't perfect.
No, no... that was not the argument. At least not what we've been discussing for past few pages. Here's the premise "african americans have genetic athletic gifts that no other race poses". If the likes of African American NFL players were to do MMA since they were children then they would dominate the sport. The athletes you see in MMA today "BJJ, Judo, Wrestling, Boxing, etc" gold medalists and world champions are lightyears inferior athletes to that of NFL roster, especially African Americans. Defend that bull**** all you want.
Boxingcar 1. I didnt say it harms the quality, MMA is still relatively new so the novelty factor is stil there. No one has the time and day to be picky at this point. People still loves it no matter what. More are looking for a brawl than show of techniques at this point. But in saying that, you can clearly see in alot of cases that in terms of quality of fighters even with its top organization like the UFC, MMA is not there yet and will do well by attracting more youths to take it up. 2. Boxing is filled with a ton of bums because theres are so much more participants involve. Its the law of averages. But put the top fighters of both sports side by side and you can clearly tell the more refined sport. I dont want to make a poll to prove this, theres no need. This is also a more established sport, hundreds and hundred of great fighters...MMA has maybe 5 that youd call great. 3. We are not looking for that, we are looking at more numbers and better athletes to join, no one is going to be perfect but it will certainly help the sports quality to have the top notch athletes in there. It can only help, it can never hurt the sport to attract more talented guys we need something even a few notches off Karelins level and that would be a good start to join MMA
