Another note MArk Schultz fought a grappling match against Rickson Gracie, Gracie beats him but said he was the toughest opponent ever. Now imagine Olympic Gold Medalist Mark Schultz taing 5 years of BJJ. Its important to note that even though he won a Gold medal, Marks brother Dave was considered clearly the better of the two. He said he got into fighting once in the UFC because he needed money although he was past it he dominated his opponent.
I hope to see more Mexican warriors like Miguel Torres.Much like mexican boxers. (I'm not mexican btw) I'd like to see if mexican fighter incorporate that Mexican boxing style into mma in the future.
Are you claiming that I've said that I only saw a few UFC events? Also did you miss above when I said we could end the debate because it has obviously gone too far. I train in MMA and have trained kickboxing for 10 years :deal I watch MMA and read about it constantly. All I stated is as the sport grows, more athletes will be attracted to it and the talent pool will increase tremendously. Better athletes do better in sports...end of ****ing story! atsch Now just shut up.
Person (A) - Georges St. Pierre Person (B) - Nick Diaz pretend these two never did a damn thing in their lives, all we know is how athletically gifted the two are. You take them and teach them BJJ, Stand up, Wrestling. And after 5 years you throw them into competition. Assume they both have the same chin, same work ethic and same desire and heart to win. Can one of you ****ing overreacting clowns honestly tell me that the more athletic person, Person (A), Georges St. Pierre isn't gonna be the better fighter????? so there, if you have more interest in the sport, you will have more competition, better athletes will be drawn to it and starting those better athletes from scratch is gonna be very bad news for the guys starting who aren't such good athletes. And I'm sorry for all you stubborn people on here, but it is no secret that alot African Americans in America posses athletic gifts that are very rare in other races. Why is anyone arguing this, I see no point here. Now I'm done.
You need a lot more brains than you do athleticism in this sport. Unfortunately where African Americans win on pure athleticism they lose in the acuity. Don't believe me? Check out NFL quarterbacks. Check out all the most dominant champion in MMA? Percentages are overwhelming. There's no right formula.
lol You still can't understand. There's no such thing as 'athleticism' like you are thinking of it; being great at one thing is no guarantee of even competence in another; being a wide receiver is nothing like being a wrestler, dont require similar talents at all. Try and and read over what Boxingcar has posted for you, you will learn something if ya try :good
:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl Wow!!!! Ok enough said there I guess. I never said all you need is athleticism. You're twisting **** around and creating an argument out of nothing. All I said the more athletic people enter the sport of MMA the better the competition and fighters there will be. Do you know that Brock Lesnar had all the athleticism and and physical tools to be in the NFL but he got cut because he couldn't learn the game and the plays and understand. yet he joins MMA and is all of a sudden the UFC heavyweight champion in his 4th fight Which sport requires more brains. It seems you are saying that Black People aren't capable of the mental capacity it takes to be MMA fighters. Ever heard of Ray Lewis? One of the best defensive players of all time. The leader of one of the greatest defenses of all time. Now you are telling me that if he got into wrestling, grappling and kickboxing when as a kid, rather then Football he wouldn't have a huge chance to murder everyone in the UFC heavyweight division today? :rofl come on dude, you're being silly! These guys that play in the NFL are lightyears ahead of the guys who fight in the UFC in terms of athleticism. They are also tough as nails, and need the mental capacity to follow and keep up with NFL plays, in a fast as hell moving sport. Once again I'll say, you are all talking out of your ass. :good
I think theres nothing to read, we are talking about apples and oranges. This is too simple, it boggles my mind! Athletes are born!!, not made. If you are born an athlete due to great genetics, at 1 year old, you dont know what field youll get into. Now lets say at 5 years of age you choose Wide reciever like you said, you have an advantage over other 5 year old wide recievers if you are more athletic(jumps higher, Runs faster, Stronger) than them. Same intangibles, same smarts. Now if that same 5 year old takes MMA, he has a big advantage right off the gate against other not so athletic 5 year olds, his rate of success is enhanced. If there were 100 of these athletic kids and another 100 normal kids and they all take MMA with everything else the same..There will be much more successful from the athletic kids group than the less athletic ones. Heres the crucial part, these 15 year olds now that are super naturally talented kids did not pick MMA, they chose other things because MMA wasnt as popular, was not known, not enough money, for whatever reason. These super athletes are not in MMA now, thats the point.
:good And im the one talking out of my ass? Top tier MMA fighters train about... i dunno 10 times as much as guys in the NFL? You have no ****ing clue what you're talkin about. Find a definition of athleticism then find the training programs for the likes of GSP, then find training program for top NFL anything. Then come back and talk to me.
Uoalf now this is disturbing, you are telling me that MMA are even close to an athletic level of an NFL player. WHoopde damn doo. If I was GSP, Ill ****ing ditch the 400k a fight gig and work for 6 months making 5 millions as a wide reciever, can you imagine the endorsements. Heck maybe Tim Silvia can cut it as a defensive end, thats a cool 3 million for 6 months work
Leave. Never come back sir, you just dug a whole from which you can't climb out of. Athletes are made. Unless you're a midget or have some kind of disease you can be a fantastic athlete with enough work put into the right sport where you belong. What in the ****'s name you talking about? 100 athletic kids vs 100 non-athletic kids? What's the difference? Please tell me. How did those 100 kids become athletic? They were BORN like that? I've personally seen lard ass kids turn out to be state champions years later. I've kinda liked you before this, so im not go too much into insults but this has got to be one of the most asinine things I've read on this forum. Athleticism is directly proportional to the hours you put in in certain physical attribute such as agility or strength. Some people have been genetically pre-disposed to be bigger stronger, other smaller more flexible etc. If you're in a right sport for your body type and mindset and you put in enough work, you can become best. Without a question.
Ooooh, isee. So the more you get paid the better athlete you are. I can see how you made that connection... :blood :rofl:rofl:rofl Bwahahahahha
