The future of MMA-

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Utter1, Feb 4, 2009.


  1. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Im leaving and make a poll because Im just curious which is more athletic NFL Players of MMA guys.

    Athletes are born is a sense that they are genetically gifted. No one said that if they are lazy and dont work at it theyd be great. Ive been saying all along that if everythings equal.

    Ok Im out.
     
  2. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lets go through this slowly.

    One step at a time.

    Have you ever seen an NFL game?
     
  3. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The second part of the question is: how much did that NFL game look like a Jiu Jitsu match?

    Was it:

    A/ Identical. Football and Jiu Jitsu are different names for the same thing.

    b/ Somewhat similar, though college ball and Jiu jitsu are even more similar

    C/ Nothing alike at all
     
  4. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    I just made a poll in the lounge, Maybe you guys are right, Ill admit if im wrong
     
  5. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, thats now completely out of context and void.


    Part 2.

    I think Kobe Bryant and Matt Lindland are both great athletes. Do you agree?

    I think although both very gifted athletes, the types of athleticism they possess are different and suited to their individual sports. What is your opinion?

    1/ Yes, I agree theyre talented and have different skills and innate gifts that are not at all alike

    2/ No, they have the same type of talent just harnessed in a different way; they could both have been great at each others sport

    3/ Matt Lindland and Kobe Bryant are actually the same person.

    Which of the above most closely resembles your opinion?
     
  6. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nah chimba dont worry. Once MMA hating boxing fans ride up in there it'll be pretty overwhelming towards NFL.
    It's almost like asking the same question on sherdog and hoping for NFL to win the poll :lol:
     
  7. Utter1

    Utter1 Active Member Full Member

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    As a matter of fact , you'll never see a "shift" in this sport. (like boxing had at one point) precisely because of the very nature of the sport itself. Not to mention...(unlike boxing) , NO ONE IS BANNED from participating. (like eastern europeans were , and cubans during the 60's..)


    What shift was that in boxing?

    Today , you already have the russians , you already have brazilians (them alone , have years of experienced in bjj)..



    So instead of a fake "world champion" like they used to have back then. (look up at muhammad ali's record , or foreman's record...or tyson's ...it's basically 95 if not 98% american opponents )... MMA already has champs who are truely fighting opponents from around the world... (that's why mma will never follow boxing's route in the near future).


    Fake world champion? I see what your saying but they wernt fake, just the fact that boxing had its best facilties in america at that time.

    I agree thought that eve boxing today is better in terms of qualiy than before.
     
  8. Utter1

    Utter1 Active Member Full Member

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    Brilliant post and to the point-

    One american poster is trying to claim that the reason no big american heavyweight is dominating boxing is becuase they are paying NFL, basketball etc.......BOLLOCKS.
     
  9. Utter1

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    Your agrument stems from generalizations about race rather than......looking at other factors on a wider scope. It like looking at the world through one eye rather than two......your always gonna be lopsided in terms of opion.

    I studied sport science at University......this topic came up many a time. It has been found through countless studies that the differences are less than 0.001 between race.

    If you put a black family in Iceland....(just north of the UK)........and came back to that island a thousand years later......with the family offspring ever moving......they would be white due to where they are on the planet and how many sunligh comes through etc.

    Basketball.......in terms of being a highly professional game is played by americans which numbers around 280 million of the world population. If you think about it, the world population right now is 6.2 billion.

    The best example is to look at the sport of Football (soccer) which is the most popular sport in the world.......and even a top 8 sport in america now.

    The 3 best players are what you would call white/latino - Messi, C. Ronaldso, Kaka.

    The 3 best playrs ever are a mixture of black, white/latino and berber/arab. Pele, Maradona and Zidane.

    Look at David Haye.........do you consider him black or white?

    His dad was mix race black and his mum is white.
     
  10. Utter1

    Utter1 Active Member Full Member

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    Bang on, on so many levels..........a master has spoken.

    I agree that for the hype Lesnar recives he didnt trample over Couture now did he.
     
  11. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Still not one of you has addressed the fact that Brock Lesnar got CUT FROM THE MINNESOTA VIKINGS and then turned to MMA and became the UFC Heavyweight Champ in 4 fights. The NFL cut him, meaning they didn't even want him on the practice squad, let alone competing with their defense for a starting position.
     
  12. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    They wanted him on the practice squad BewareofDawg, but they wanted him go to the NFL europe before, but he didnt want because he didnt want to be away from his family.
     
  13. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    And Lesnar never played football at university, if i'm not mistaken, so did people really believe he was gonna make the team?
    He should have tried CFL.
     
  14. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Still bro, my point still stands. He's now a top 5 Heavyweight. And the NFL didn't want him on the field yet. :deal
     
  15. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    but its like telling Adrian Peterson to come into MMA, after 2 months of training, hell, even Kimbo would beat him.