Thats kind of my point. At the "tryout thing" where NFL teams scout players. When the do sprints, jumps, lift and all so the teams could see how fast, strong and agile the players are Lesnar scored off the charts. It wasn't until he actually got into the team and game environment that he started to be inadequate and couldn't compete. It was the mental side of it. I brought this up because Ufaloafaolf stated that MMA is more mental and it takes more then being just an athlete. He also stated that where black athletes have an advantage in physical tools, they lack in acuity. I was just stating that Lesnar could match the NFL players in physical tools, but could not pick up on the other aspects of the game because of his lack of experience or just natural lack of intelligence. Yet he entered MMA and is on the top of the sport now.
No man. My argument started if you read back, I was very careful by saying that if say Adrian Peterson started as a kid in MMA he would be great probably. Andd with Lesnar, it is the same. He tried the NFL late in his life, and he tried MMA later. He was able to dominate MMA really, but couldn't make the team in football.
Okay, my bad, anyway I disagree. But what if Peterson lacks toughness?lacks heart? lacks the chin? what if he lacks the mental aspect of fighting? Pete Spratt was a ****ing great athlete, yes, started MMA at a fairly young age, but, was lacking other thing.. Pete Spratt had a complete schollardship to Ohklama University, if im not mistaken, and was a very good receiver. Whos the best athlete between him or Koscheck? Kos did wreck him easily, and by your standard Spratt is a better athlete no? but well, agree to disagree
Wow, you're a tool. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to be an MMA fighter, but you have to be sharp, composed etc. Perfect example is Fedor, if you read some fighter interviews all of them point to Fedors strongest asset... his mind. Guess what, he's arguably the greatest ever. Lesnar for w/e reason didn't have the intelligence for NFL but he has the sharpness for fighting. It's like comparing strength and agility, its 2 different sub trees of mentality.
Perfect example is the best MMA fighter ever No you're the tool. You are the one that claims and states that Black athletes are superior in physical gifts, but inferior in acuity. :deal Which I proved wrong by stating Lesnar couldn't make it in a predominantly black NFL while possessing the same if not superior physical gifts. Can you remind please, what it is that I stated in this thread that you took objection too? Was it that an increase in black athletes to MMA would not make for better competition and better fighters? How the hell wouldn't it? You would still have existing competitiors, but now you would have a much greater talent pool. Or did you just come at me in this thread to be a complete ignorant ass hole and expose your stubborness and obvious lack of common sense???
He doesn't. You need toughness and heart to play tail back in the NFL. And never did I ever say that any one given football player can enter the UFC and dominate. I stated that if you take the lot of kids and men who play the sport and who compete to make it in the NFL and all of a sudden funnel them into the MMA world, we are gonna see some great fighters come out of it deal:deal That is not even up for debate, it's an obvious fact.
well in lesnar's defense about the nfl stint, it was most likely experience (as opposed to iq) he was lacking. i think he basically tried it for one camp, after working out for a while, and almost made the club. those he was competing against had college and likely some pro experience so he was likely well behind the learining curve (did brock play at all in college? sure he must've played high school) in his late 20's and having spent the last 5 or so in the WWE. sure his attitude wasn't the best but almost making an nfl team is an achievement and likely requires some smarts as well.
Did I say ALL blacks are physically superior and mentally inferior? And all whites other way around? No. stfu. I called you a tool, because you couldn't restrain yourself from acting like a girl misspelling nickname. Now you're a just a tool. Oh I see the problem. You have hard time reading, you just wait your turn to speak huh? Since you have obvious comprehension difficulties I'll explain it. First wasn't an objection it was an addition to your initial statement that blacks generally have more muscle mass and thats been scientifically proven. Same as it has been scientifically proven that they have lower IQ therefore less acuity on the field and off. I dunno why you even got offended by that unless you're black yourself. If you are than the idiotic bias that you have is explained. What? :huh Damn bro, polymath might actually be right. I'm not even joking you should check with a doctor because the above is so off base that you need medical help. I think you didn't even read what I've said from the beginning if thats what you think.
I'm sure its not you but your autism speaking. No biggie. Now go look up a definition of "obvious" and "fact". Than go look up definitions of "fantasy". You'll find that the bs you spit is the latter definition.
Let's start again. Not laughing at you. We'll go through it slowly. Have you ever seen a football game? Options: 1/ Yes 2/ No, whats football?
How good could Stephen Neil had been??? He beat Brock in the NCAA finals and was a starting lineman for the New England Patriots. This thread has gone down a silly tangent. More numbers regardless of race makes better competition.
In all serious some of those McCoy & Neil matches were outstanding, Neil was actually a bit better on his feet but McCoy was better at getting back points. Neil did win a world championship in 99 I believe.
The link below explains why Brock Lesnar’s transition to MMA was easier and more successful than his transition to the NFL… http://www.wrestlinghalloffame.org/wrestlers.php?wrestler=2477
MMA will change forever when certain superior athletes get involved. You know who I'm thinking of, dont you? This content is protected This content is protected That's right, Dart Players! The kind of hand-eye coordination these guys have is INSANE! As our friend Chimba says, pure raw ATHLETICISM! You think if guys witht his sort of spacial awareness and hand-eye coordination had been training MMA from an early age guys like CHris Leben would be in the UFC?! This isn't even an argument you ******s, I'm out of this thread!
