The future of the heayvweight division.

Ibragimov:good



The heavyweight division isn't as bad as some say, and there are some exciting matchups on the horizon that could be made. There are some excellent prospects coming up and some relatively young heavyweights looking to make a name for themselves.

 

Are you American?

 

The future of the heavyweight division... European boxers from overseas. They're disciplined, skilled, and hungry. The days of the afro-americans dominating the HW division are long gone.

 

Yeah and these boxers got a huge amateur background and pedigree.

The HW will undergo a rebirth in the next couple of years with some decent prospects on the horizon.

The only problem is, that the American media mafia detracts that division all along, because no american prospect on the horizon. So it cannot be other than the division sucks. Thats a shame for the US. People who detract that division all along as soooooo bad, simply don´t know whats going on in that sport. Guys like Klitschko, Chagaev or Povetkin have incredible amateur credentials and they are titleholder. Their big problem is, they are eastern Europeans and no bad ass.

 

haye has a chin problem. wont even win euro belt at heavy.

 

Peter doesn't deserve to be at 3.


It's clear that he's never going to improve as a boxer.

Now that would've been okay, but it's just become apparanent that he doesn't quite have that iron chin that we thought he had, and to make things worse, he's not scored any knockouts over top opposition either. He's a good contender but not really anything promising for the future.

 

I agree, but that's always been the case. The division has never been lacking in good and exciting fighters, nor is it lacking in good and exciting fighters, now.

The problem is the politics behind the scenes prevent the best fighters from fighting each other. That has been the biggest hinderance to the division for a few years now. Its not a lack of quality fighters, its a lack of important fights being made.

And you can blame the four organizations and Don King for that. They pull the strings, and they are the ones who prevented many, MANY important unifying fights from being made since Lewis retired.

For someone to blame the actual fighters for the decline the division seems to be in is like blaming the hard working employees of a big company that goes under. Its cause of the decisions being made at the top, in the management office, not the workers in the trenches.

 

True. But as someone posted above - very hard for some to digest the current HW scene.
As if the constant griping :| and biased comments helps anything.

:good Agree. Excellent points.

 

I think the future has some real potential. If one fighter can beat the majority of the fighters mentioned here, I do not think you can spit out "weak era" at all to criticize.

 

Anyone Have Any Info On Arron Lyons, 7-1, 6 Kos.

He Stopped Joey Abell In The First Round.

Has Anyone Seen Lyons Fight????

 

Are guys like Gomez,Chagaev,or Solis not a bit old to be the future of the heavy weight division?
Shouldnt you have mentioned names like Denis Boytsov(21 years old/15-0 at the pros/gold medal at the world amateur championchip knocking out all his opponents on his way to win that medal) instead?

 

Boytsov!:good

 

People need to get over JC Gomez being the future of anything. He's no spring chicken, he doesn't have the chin for the big punchers, and he goes through spells where he's just plain lackadaisical. He'll probably get a title shot eventually, but he's no more of a contender than, say, Tony Thompson.

I like Arreola, but he still has a lot of questions to answer. Can he maintain his output through 10 or even 12 rounds? We don't know, because he keeps getting accumulation KOs on C level opponents. Does he have a great chin? We don't know because he hasn't faced any proven punchers. Can he improve his defense? He's been doing it consistently so far, but facing such weak opposition hasn't been helping him learn how to slip punches any better, which might be a problem when he faces someone like Virchis who can punch. Does he have heart? We don't know because he's never been hurt in a pro bout.

As for style or filling in the blanks, be's pretty similar to Juan Diaz. Forward moving, throws lots of punches at lots of angles, will eat a few to the face to get off a few of his own, good at mixing up between the body and the head, not that powerful for someone with his build but manages to hurt his opponent by accumulation. His chin will determine whether he'll be a gatekeeper or a contender, and his ability to improve his defense and his stamina will determine whether he might be able to hold onto a belt for a short while. Either way, he's almost certainly not the savior of the division, but I could easily see him getting a big following, being a charismatic Mexican-American with a crowd-pleasing style.

 

Gomez, yes. The other two, no. You should know as well as anyone that many HWs don't peak until their 30's. Someone in his mid-to-late 20's still has time to develop.

Boytsov needs to get more active though. A kid his age and experience level should be fighting 4 to 6 times a year, not twice or three times a year like he's been doing in 2007. Has he been hurt lately, or is Universum just not pushing him hard enough?