The Genius of Prize Fighting: PRETTY BOY FLOYD 'MONEY' MAYWEATHER

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  1. Boon

    Boon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A genius marketing mogul and business man. This dude made so much money that didn't even attempt to make more money by getting sponsors on his shorts. Hublot approached him and offered him millions of dollars to sponsor his dominance over Pac-Man. Other than that, Pretty Boy wasn't interested in chasing chump change sponsorship money.

    When he first turned professional, he was more or less the same as any other Olympian boxer turning pro in America, of which there were many including from the same class as Pretty Boy. He wasn't considered anything special but he did MAKE himself special but wisely becoming the man it would take to become a GLOBAL household name and recognized ATG in the sport of boxing, in sports overall and in popular culture.

    This dude chose to be outspoken, talk trash, market himself and sell his brand to millions upon millions of sports fans around the globe, or on the flat earth as Carl Froch believe it is (this guy who had a fight in front of 80,000 people in an arena where 80,000 fans attended where he fought in front of them. Them being 80,000 people. Carl Froch did that).

    Pretty Boy went from being a Top Rank fighter that was left in the wilderness of nothingness by Bob 'Conman' Arum, a promoter who didn't see Floyd being fit to spend a nickel or a dime on, nor pay him his dues, to buying out his contract and ensuring that dinosaur Bob missed out on hundreds of millions of dollars on being Floyd's promoter.

    Floyd did everything to become a sports start, a household name and become boxings first billionaire. No boxer has balled on Floyd's level before him, nor after him. Not even Canelo who lives in Mexico where everything is like half as cheap.

    He earned his dues by getting everyone interested in his fights. From the age of 21 he was fighting the best fighters in his division and dominating them. 21 years old he started that. Not at 30 like most fighters today.

    He did everything to sell himself, interview on every talk show, ESPN Sports to whatever. He was outspoken and nobody could hang with him in any kind of debate. That interview with Brian Kenny (who is a DAZN commentator today) he came swinging and guns blazing from the first line.

    Boxing is hard work and fighters today are forgetting to squeeze every dollar out of the game before they wash up. You never know when you are done and when your last dollar is coming in. There is no such thing as 'cash grab' in boxing. These dues earned it.

    Floyd showed how it is done. Now, we see Canelo finally deciding to speak English in public. He has always been able to speak English but like many fighters didn't bother to do so. Now that he has, his popularity has increased a lot and he is speaking like how Floyd did in his career. Canelo learned from the best, not only in the ring where he got whooped, but also in the press conferences and TV interviews. I hope he remembered to thank his teacher, Pretty Boy Floyd.
     
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  2. BoxingDialogue

    BoxingDialogue Well-Known Member Full Member

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    People really need to get out more if they think a guy from a country that dosent speak English could actually speak it all along. Yeah its clear he's been working on it over the years and still he isnt fluent. Its easier to understand a language than it is to speak it
     
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  3. Boon

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    Hey, maybe you misunderstood. There are a good few fighters that actually speak English but choose not to do so, for whatever reason. It has been noted here a few times. I think Usyk is one of them.

    This is not coming from an xenophobic veiewpoint or even a Tyson Fury mindset, but just an observation. I am sure the faithful here will chime in soon and remind us who and where.

    As for Canelo, he has spent considerable time in the US and previously did some interviews in English and then reverted back to exclusively speaking Spanish until recently.

    I remember a few posters here remarking about Usyk doing the same, with the posters saying maybe he does it for a mental edge etc.
     
  4. BoxingDialogue

    BoxingDialogue Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No dude, his english has never been very good and it still isnt. Not sure what interviews you're talking about but here's a recent one that shows what im saying.
     
  5. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." Full Member

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    I like the guy's boxing, but what is with you Floydboy cats and this unironic fanboy ****? You're not getting a cut, man. :lol:
     
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  6. Boon

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    His English was not good back then but he did answer a few questions in English then he changed back to Spanish. He will be much more confident in speaking in Spanish obviously.

    Hopefully some of the Usyk guys can let us know about his English too.
     
  7. Boon

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    He might give out a few of those 100 bills if he notices me :yaay

    Seriously, the point stands, he was extremely shrew and smart to earn as much as he did. So many fighters today could earn many times more than they already do, if only they simply spoke up and made a name for themselves outside of the ring.
     
  8. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." Full Member

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    I think some of you guys overstate his shrewdness/smartness outside the ring. Not to say that he didn't demonstrate some basic savvy, but his act wasn't exactly revelatory, it's old as dirt. The stars aligned for Floyd in a unique way, he benefited from a rare combination of factors.

    One, he's a boxing (idiot) savant, few possess his ability. That, combined with some carefully calibrated matchmaking allowed him to hold on to the '0', in turn allowing him to milk the bad boy act for years on end. The longer he maintained his undefeated record, the longer people would tune in to see if he'd lose it.

    (Just to clarify, that's not to say he waited out every notable opponent, or that any of those guys necessarily beat him if he'd faced them sooner, but he was definitely heedful in his opponent selection post-140.)

    Two, he had Al Haymon, whose role in Mayweather's financial moves it isn't possible to overstate.

    Three, he had some really marketable foes to bust through PPV records with.

    And none of that is a knock. You make your own luck to an extent — even with the stars lined up, there still needs to be some vision and drive to realize the promise written in them. More to say that he's no business genius or mogul.


    Guys have been copycatting the Floyd Formula for about a decade with relatively limited success. They might have Al, they might have a willingness to run off at the mouth, but they don't have the same chops in the ring or the marquee dance partners. Then you get a guy like Andre Ward, on the other hand, who had comparable chops (if not the De La Hoyas, Cottos, Canelos and Pacquiaos), and is generally a much more intelligent and thoughtful man than Floyd outside the ring, but he never had Al and nor was he willing to make a pantomine out of his public persona.
     
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  9. Boon

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    I see your point of view and agree largely too. I do think that Floyd have both, the skills in the ring and the personality outside the ring to go with it too. Floyd did make a calculated plan to become the pantomime villain bad boy of boxing. I think he started it from around the age he became a world champion (21) and he did it because he was not getting any coverage like other fighters (ODLH). That decision earned him everything.

    Self-promotion is so important. Andre Ward probably should have done a lot more. Luckily, he has the commentating job so he earns a good little check. Some other fighter's today need to do a good bit more to promote themselves; Crawford, Ennis, Ortiz Jr. and probably every EE fighter.

    Yeah, the amount of guys that have copied the shoulder roll to disastrous effects is actually quiet sad, only because it doesn't work if you only start using it 8 weeks before a fight. That's a lifetime's work, not a one camp job.
     
  10. exocet76

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    Floyd was a ATG boxer but I'm not convinced he's the mastermind you paint his out to be or that he's charasmatic or verbally articulate.
    The top stars will have top people around them to advise and gameplan for them.
    Floyd rebranded after his retirement and leant in to the heel persona that didn't take any skill and it wasn't because of his ability on the mic.
    What it did do was maximise his PPV potential by pulling in punters who would pay and watch to see if he would get beaten which is a good move.
    I don't think that is all Floyd though and I'll explain why. If Floyd was that shrewd then his ability to manage his money would be far better than it is. It's clear to see that gambling and spending money like it's going out of fashion is not a sustainable behaviour it isn't an indicator of someone being shrewd either.
    It should also be noted that Floyd was fortunate with the timing of his career in respect to the Heavyweight division lacking any excitement during his career. If you put Ali's era or when the likes of Hagler. Hearns or Duran then Floyd would simpily would not have been even half as big as he was.
    So I'm not dumping on Floyd as he was clearly a great talent in the ring but I don't buy that he was some mastermind because the evidence points in the other direction.
    I agree speaking English is important in terms of marketing but again Floyd was hardly a great speaker and therefore that part of it didn't really add to maximising sales. Tyson Fury on the other hand is confident in his speech can trash talk and can be funny as well. that is a different skill set that a lot of boxers do not have and it's not really something that can be learnt as people are either funny and charasmatic or there not.

    So in short nearly everything you have written can be proven to be false and therefore is just fanboy knob gobbling.
     
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  11. JOKER

    JOKER I rock the llama's ass. Full Member

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    Floyd would have loved to have sponsors and endorsements. Problem is the vast majority of companies try to avoid association with a known wife beater.

    Floyd didn't make a billion dollars. He's being sued by jewelers and car dealerships for non-payment. His kids couldn't pay the driver they hired. And Floyd's done a window commercial, currently shilling pellet guns, and has to do exhibitions with YouTubers.

    Don't be a cuck.

    :lol:
     
  12. Boon

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    Hello, number 1 hater of Pac-Man's father, TBE, who schooled Pac-Man, by taking him to school, by utilizing his superior skills. Then after the fight Pac-Man raised both arms in a feeble attempt to falsely portray that he thought he won the fight (which he knew he didn't).

    How could I forget that during the fight, at no point did anyone in Manny's corner ask him "Hey! Is your arm okay? Any problems so far with your arm Manny?".
     
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  13. JOKER

    JOKER I rock the llama's ass. Full Member

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    If you want to believe and insist that Floyd made a billion dollars, go for it. No need to be an angry cuck.

    Just understand and know that's it's creepy that you care so much about how much another man has made.

    You were up at midnight typing this essay, FFS.

    :lol:
     
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  14. acekard

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    canelo's english is way better than usyk's. he understands and answers questions without much of a trouble. usyk's english is basically non-existent and watered down to the most basic words.
     
  15. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    BRAVO BRAVO very well said. Full honours on this post. Says it all really.