The Gloves are off | Super middleweight special | Roy Jones Jr, Calzaghe, Eubank, Collins

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He had no motivation. But he should have said that instead of saying he was injured.
     
  2. Loudon

    Loudon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Completely different fights stylistically. On paper, Nunn would have made him look foolish. But we don’t know how he’d have coped when Benn would have jumped on him from the opening bell.
     
  3. Loudon

    Loudon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mark, this guy is LITERALLY mentally ill.

    He’s just come back from a ban and he’ll be getting banned again soon.

    Don’t even bother engaging him.

    He’ll go into detail, but only from one side.

    He’ll be getting strapped back to his bed after the weekend.
     
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  4. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I grew up in Ireland and remember as a kid watching the Benn and Eubank fights with my dad, but to say Jones ducked him (or Darius) is silly.

    Collins jumped in the ring after the Frazier fight, when he had been retired for over a year, as a 168 champion.

    Are we expected to believe that he ducked a retired 168lbs fighter, to fight Reggie Johnson, a guy who had a win over Collins at 175?
     
  5. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As for the Collins/Calzaghe thing, I remember that Collins has agreed in principle to come back for the fight but he collapsed in training as he was trying to get back in shape and the fight never happened.
     
  6. Loudon

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    I think that was in 1999 though, for a spot on Joe’s undercard for Joe’s fight with Thornberry.
     
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  7. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He went toe to toe with Hagler and got wrecked early doors, how's that a gauge mark lol when your trying to big up his game ??? He got annihilated...your logic is off mark
     
  8. Somali Sanil

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    Sparked by Howard Eastman I heard in training
     
  9. ecto55

    ecto55 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I've taken some time to read through those many posts, and seriously, do we actually know who this guy is? The level of emotional involvement and bias is extremely strong and one never knows who is on the otherwise of a computer screen.

    Many people don't know but Bernard Hopkins at a stage of his career for a few years was a prolific boxing forum reader and poster in his down time, although to my knowledge few know this, he only obliquely references the fact and I understand it stopped years ago.

    He probably? quit as he was forced to increasing run his own management due to his well known personality / control issues.

    I even know Australian boxers who posted on this very forum and were identified and bizarrely harassed until they left.

    My point is, the bloke could very well be Steve Collins and no, not mentally ill, but bored due to the corona virus and a tad obsessive over missed opportunities that he only has himself to blame. If that's the case, some sensitivity is in order...if not, the issues are worse but no less real.
     
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  10. mark ant

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    Do you think he would have been motivated if it was the later Calzaghe who became an awesome fighter?
     
  11. mark ant

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    That was one of the greatest fights in history, Collins never had a fight as vicious as that and would never have hurt Hagler the way Hearns did in the first round, which was one of the most vicious, epic rounds in history, Hagler was way out of Collins league and was the only middleweight at that time that could have beaten Hearns who began to slip after that bout aside from destroying Shuler who would have given Collins a lot of trouble.
     
  12. mark ant

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    Benn was wild at middle and missed loads, Nunn was better defensively than anyone Benn fought, Sanderline Williams gave Benn problems.
     
  13. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No ones disputing it was a great fight, that's not the argument. Once the fight settled down, Hearns simply wasn't strong or durable enough to compete.. You think Hagler does that to Collins ?? You don't think Collins can go the full 12 with Hagler ?? I wouldn't be surprised if it was a split decision, intangibles Mark.
     
  14. Limerickbox

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    Interesting.
    If that's what happened, then he was better off staying retired.
     
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  15. general zod

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    Hagler outclasses Collins. The same way he did to Tony Sibson.
     


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