The Gold standard in each weight class.

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  1. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This fighter is considered universally unbeatable or atleast the winner in most h2h matchups in the forum.

    135: Duran
    147:SRR
    168:RJJ
    HW: peak Ali?
    I think the forum mostly agrees on these.

    Who else?
     
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  2. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Well here are my own anyway:

    105: Roman Gonzalez
    108: Naoya Inoue
    112: Roman Gonzalez
    115: Naoya Inoue
    118: Ruben Olivares
    122: Wilfredo Gomez
    126: Willie Pep
    130: Floyd Mayweather
    140: Julio Cesar Chavez
    135: Roberto Duran
    147: Sugar Ray
    154: Tommy Hearns
    160: Sugar Ray
    168: Roy Jones
    175: Ezzard Charles
    200: Oleksander Usyk
    HW: Muhammad Ali
     
  4. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'll say Ezzard Charles at 175 and maybe Alexis Arguello at 130. At 118 there always seems to be a split between Olivares, Zarate and Jofre.
     
  5. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Heavyweight = Lennox Lewis or peak Muhammad Ali
    Cruiserweight = Rocky Marciano or Evander Holyfield if were talking about fighters who strictly fought at Cruiserweight.
    Light Heavyweight = Michael Spinks
    Super Middleweight = Roy Jones Jr
    Middleweight = Marvin Hagler or Carlos Monzon
    Jr Middleweight = Thomas Hearns
    Welterweight = Sugar Ray Robinson
    Jr Welterweight = Jose Napoles
    Lightweight = Roberto Duran
    Super Featherweight = Floyd Mayweather Jr
    Featherweight = Salvador Sanchez
    Super Bantamweight = Wilfredo Gomez
    Bantamweight = Naoya Inoue
    Super Flyweight = No idea ? Johnny Tapia ?
    Flyweight = Again no idea but i really liked Mark Johnson at his best.
    Light Flyweight = Roman Gonzalez ?
    Minimumweight = Ricardo Lopez
     
  6. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed on 118, that's a tough division to call out one as the best
     
  7. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    175 is a loaded division as well, Ezzard Charles, Spinks, Archie Moore, Bob Foster, Billy Conn,, .
     
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  8. Marvelous_Iron

    Marvelous_Iron Active Member Full Member

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    FOTC Frazier for heavyweight
     
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  9. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hi Buddy.
    I like your list, for Fly maybe Wilde or Lynch ?
    Stay safe amigo.
     
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  10. Gui Dosnera

    Gui Dosnera Member Full Member

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    105: Ricardo "Finito" Lopez
    108: Michael Carbajal
    112: Román "Chocolatito" González and Jimmy Wilde
    115: Naoya Inoue
    118: Panama Al Brown
    122: Wilfredo Gómez
    126: Willie Pep
    130: Johnny Dundee
    135: Benny Leonard
    140: Tony Canzoneri
    147: Henry Armstrong and Sugar Ray Robinson
    154: Thomas Hearns
    160: Harry Greb and Sugar Ray Robinson
    168: Roy Jones Jr
    175: Archie Moore
    200: Evander Holyfield and Usyk
    HW: Sam Langford, Joe Louis and Ali
     
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  11. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is quite good. But i feel like there are fighters that could weigh in at 200 and beat usyk, and a few 140 lbers that could beat chavez like whitaker and duran
     
  12. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You think FOTC Frazier beats most Heavyweights ever H2H?
     
  13. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I was basing it off who I've seen footage of mate, as you know some of the older fighters there's little to no footage of them. I haven't actually ever seen footage of Wilde I just know his history that hes a legend based on his fantastic record.
     
  14. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hi Buddy.
    Appreciate polite response, and on board with your stance, btw there is some footage of both Wilde and Lynch on YT, might be worth a look to better gauge their respective merits.
    stay safe hombre.
     
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  15. Marvelous_Iron

    Marvelous_Iron Active Member Full Member

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    I suppose FOTC Frazier is a bit of an anomaly and only represents him on one night, a lot of people say Ali, but then FOTC Frazier beat Ali, Foreman is a h2h monster but Ali beat him and only once, Frazier performing on the level he did in FOTC vs Foreman is unknown as he was pretty past it when they fought, but at least we have some actual fights of those guys to compare, Louis vs any them is an even more unknown, for Louis there has to be the assumption he blows through the guys that went the distance with/gave Ali and Frazier trouble

    Marciano is a bit of anomaly too as he is not being placed at heavyweight in this thread but beat Louis, of course Louis was past it and Marciano did have a few losses at amateur

    Tyson is an outlier/wildcard as there is a chance he could knock all of them out, a highly skilled puncher's chance of sorts