The Golovkin-Martirosyan Match Serves As An Excellent & Revelatory Proxy Measuring Stick.

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  1. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    No one dictates anything to me. You shouldn't project Lancey boy. I have stated multiple times that I appreciate GGG's skill, and was a fan of his, but I became skeptical of him after the Rubio fight when he failed to step up when he was getting endless hype from HBO.

    Now, that I come to kill time on this website by schooling the GGGoons, that's completely different than what you're suggesting Lancey boy.

    I call it how I see it, just like most members do.

    Look Lance, this is how pathetic you are my friend, you rarely discuss boxing, you're more interested in coming here to discuss other members here and how awful you think they are, you should look up what projecting is buddy, maybe you have to admit before you can progress.
     
  2. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Your friend? I'm not your friend loser. And yes, you do let fans dictate your feeling and thoughts. Clear as day when every other post of your is referring to what fans say or claim. Nice try ASSOl...but you aren't bright enough to compete.
     
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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Who ever said anything about the match being highly competitive? Not I, never have I ever said Lara, Charlo, Andrade, or your new mancrush since you're last one let you down Hurd, have even close to a chance at beating Golovkin. But many on here have and still do. So judging by that standard, Vanes who took all three of them to the brink, is of equal standing.

    And for the record, Lara hauled ass for the last 6 against Canelo, Lara hauled ass from the opening bell against Perro Angulo, he chose to box hyper defensively against Vanes, both times. But..... he chose to stand and slug it out with Hurd, what's that tell you about Hurd's power? Vanes-Hurd plays out in a similar fashion to the Nelson match.

    And speaking of the Nelson match.... Vanes beat Willie 7-3, clearly you're not a great scorer.

    And Vanessa? How clever, what are you 12? I'd love to see you call him Vanessa to his face, he'd get his buddy Ronda Rousey to beat your ass.
     
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  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    That's awesome, I could literally watch that all day. :lol: That would be a great new show, just put an elephant seal in odd locations and watch it go to town, an elephant seal in a bakery, an elephant seal in a pumpkin patch, an elephant seal in a shopping mall, an elephant seal in a in a top if the line hotel, a herd of elephant seal at an Antifa rally, the possibilities are limitless.:sisi1
     
  5. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Vanes is more accomplished at 154lbs than Dominic Wade was 160lbs, but I'm still getting a similar vibe to this fight. Martirosyan's extended layoff and generally unspectacular performances when he was active don't stand him in particularly good stead going into a cash-out fight for him. Yes, he performed admirably against Jermell and Lara x2 (though, IIRC, I didn't have him winning/drawing either of the Lara matches and didn't have an issue with Charlo getting the nod, either ), but I suspect he wouldn't have performed quite as well coming off an almost two year absence from the ring.

    It's no more of a measuring stick for how Golovkin fares against the likes of Jermall, Hurd et al than Wade would have been. Probably ends in very similar fashion, too.

    Not GGG's fault...But, it is what it is.

    And, what it is happens to be a not particularly appealing stay busy fight for Golovkin after the original opponent fell out. Nothing more, nothing less.
     
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  6. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    You went from James5000 to James500 to James50 to James5 to Little Jimmy in one post.
     
  7. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Always with the good stuff Drew :spidey:

    To me, this has the makings of a stay-busy fight. Expecting the next fight to be back on schedule against a top guy.
     
  8. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It absolutely is-and in a perfect world, I would have preferred to see GGG take Derevyenchenko up on the latter's offer to step in. That said, I don't hold it against him-he wanted to fight the rematch with Canelo, and it wasn't his fault that Canelo opted out. Options were limited for him after that.

    Still, I just don't see it as being any more significant than the fight with Wade was, in the scheme of things.
     
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  9. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    96-94 Vanes. GGG fighting Charlo's conquerer.

    Deal with it.

    :deal:
     
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  10. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    SD has not shown anything that would suggest he could beat GGG. And the haters would discredit the win and say that SD took the fight on short notice, didn't have a full training camp, etc..
     
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  11. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He's a full fledged middleweight with a ridiculous amateur pedigree, excellent technique, a great engine and fairly heavy hands. He's more talented and better schooled than (more than) half the guys that Golovkin has defended against during his reign. And, he wanted the fight. Short notice or no, the Technician is a far more appealing foe than Spike, or Vanes. To claim otherwise is to be disingenuous...and that's something we wouldn't want to be called, would we?
     
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  12. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    Rigondeaux had an even more insane amateur pedigree, demonstrated obscene skills at the pro level, schooled a HOF in his prime, and then was uncompetitive and wilted against a fellow P4Per. With Tureano as arguably his best win, you can't say that he's ready for a guy like Golovkin. In fact, when Golovkin was rumored to fight Tureano, people flipped the hell out.

    I never said that Spike and Vanes were more appealing fights. I don't even think that they're harder fights.

    But you know as well as I know that a win over SD would be discredited based on SD's resume and the lack of a proper training camp.
     
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  13. Drew101

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    Wade wasn't ready for Golovkin, and his best win was a gift wrapped SD over Soliman. SD proceeded to wipe out King Sam in 2. So, his pro resume is twice as good as Wade's was...and, like Wade, he's also IBF mandatory.

    Call me crazy...I would have much rather watched that fight than GGG run through Vanes.
     
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  14. Serge

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    :lol:
     
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  15. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    I agree. Mostly.

    Saunders, Deveryanchenko, Jacobs 2. In that order.
     
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