The "Great Carl Froch Myth" will be exposed by Dirrell!!!

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  1. Taylex

    Taylex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I am shocked by how delusional Dirrells fans are. Just pause for a minute think about the level of fighter he has fought. He gets rocked by journey men tomato cans and often fights very short tubby fighters.

    He has never taken the kind of power Froch will bring to the ring. Froch held his own against Pascal who is fast, skill full and allottttt stronger than Dirrell so how is Dirrell going to hurt Froch?
     
  2. southpawslick

    southpawslick Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm hoping Dirrell pulls off an upset but I got to agree with this. This is a bad career move for Dirrell. Its too much too soon.
     
  3. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Funny. But the lines are often set in vegas. And the point I was making is that they are very tight. The last I saw Froch was a -125 to +140 favorite.
     
  4. elguapo

    elguapo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You talk about delusional:huh, Pascal and Taylor, damn are u there biggest fans also!!! Because u put all your stock in Frochs wins over these 2!!!
     
  5. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Go back 3 fights and I could say the exact same thing about Carl Froch. At that point, who had he fought? The difference, of course, is the Dirrell is vastly superior in terms of natural talent. The question is, can he fight a disciplined fight? If he can, we're in for a very interesting evening.
     
  6. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Best odds I can see anywhere that I don't have to catch an airplane to is 8/13 Froch.
     
  7. Solid Chin

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    Look, copy and pasting previous posts wont help your argument, the fact is this.

    You dont know how Froch will deal with Dirrell because Dirrell fights completely differently to Taylor and Pascal so quit going off of form lines and previous opponents.

    Look at what each fighter is capable of and then stick to that because look at Roger Mtagwa last week, dont you learn dude, Mtagwa was considered a tough tough journeyman type fighter who earnt himself a shot and look at what happened he almost knocked Lopez the **** out so dont go by resume's and previous opponents because before that fight everyone was picking Lopez even though he won but he went to hell and back to get the victory so quit talking about previous oppoents because styles make fights and Dirrell is going to dazzle Froch with too much handspeed and savy, he is young and very hungry and Froch is 32 and he has been in 2 hard fights back to back so keep things in perspective.

    Robin Reid almost took Froch out and that was a well past his best Robin Reid so I dont know why you seem to think that Dirrell cant stop him, Dirrell can bang if he wants to. He got Hanshaw out of there impressively using handspeed and Hanshaw looks to be around the same type of height as Froch so it will be interesting to see how Froch gets past Dirrell's lighting fast counters. I just cannot see him doing it. It will be like walking into a high speed fan.
     
  8. kwyjibo

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    Hello, I'm new here. I think that logically, Froch should win the fight. Speed will be a problem for Froch in this fight, but his slow (yet very powerful) punches always seem to find a way to the target - the nickname cobra suits him well. Dirrell won't tire like Taylor, so he will have to avoid Froch's big right hands and his 'trademark' uppercut all night (which he can do). If Dirrell boxes smart, stays cool and doesn't try to prove himself too hard by looking for a single punch KO (which will take alot considering Froch's freakishly good chin) then he has a chance to win a UD. Whether Dirrell will do all this is yet to be known. Will the venue and atmosphere get to him? We'll have to see!
     
  9. elguapo

    elguapo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not necessarily!!!! Alot of past great or good champs, had mental lapses, in wich they were hurt or dropped, but the cream will rise to the top!!!!!!:good
     
  10. elguapo

    elguapo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    good post!
     
  11. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That seems a little steep to me, if you're a Froch bettor. I have yet to see even money odds, but I've seen close online.
     
  12. Taylex

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    At least Froch fought a shot ex world champ in Robin Reid so we could gauge him a bit more where as Dirrell has not fought any gatekeepers of world title contenders/ champions.

    Where are the interesting common opponents? Froch KO a guy that went the distance with Lucian Bute and when I look at Dirrells record I can only find Hanshaw who basically got owned by a shell RJJ.
     
  13. Solid Chin

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    1000's of people said the same thing about Ali before he beat Liston so at some point you got to step up.

    Never count a man out, forget names and think about a man fighting another man, Froch is not indestructable, I've seen that man stunned by punches, i.e. A shot Robin Reid came in and almost took him out in the 4th with a wild right hand and Froch was on ***** street. A Shot Robin Reid, we are not talking about a Shot Robin Reid now, we are talking about a young, hungry Lion who has youth on his side and alot of natural talent.
    Froch is too stiff when he throws his punches and he will get countered all day if he chooses to throw those slow ass combo's he was throwing against Taylor. Taylor just stood right infront of Froch and Pavlik and got his ass knocked out after taking unecessary punishment. Dirrell will be using the ring not standing infront of Froch and Froch will have to find the target but the target will keep moving.
     
  14. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Lol, what?
     
  15. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not comparing their resumes. Obviously, when we do that, Froch comes out on top. However, there's a reason why Froch fans are nervous and odd's makers are tightening their belts.' When you get a matchup like this against an older fighter and one with potential, you can never tell what's going to happen.

    Personally, I think Froch may pull it off, but it isn't going to be nearly as easy as many of his fans' think.