the Great Julio Cesar Chavez vs Miguel Cotto/Ricky hatton/or Floyd mayweather

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  1. Wilhelm

    Wilhelm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think JCC beats Hatton no matter what. I think he beats Cotto at 140, but at 147 I'm not so sure. I don't think he beats PBF at all.
     
  2. Sonny Carson

    Sonny Carson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Mayweather would simply just outbox Julio. Julio couldn't deal with boxer's with great speed like Mayweather. He would knock Hatton and Cotto out. The fight against Castillo was his first fight at lightweight he didn't know what to expect and he didn't really take Castillo serious. Lampley said that before the fight all Mayweather talked about was money and not Castillo. The second time around it wasn't close.
     
  3. Koa

    Koa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is one opening that nobody has exploited vs PBF and thats the right hand behind the elbow when he's standing sideways with the shoulder roll.

    Reason I bring this up is because SRL used this punch against Senior.. Not sure this is an illegal punch today, but you can see it thrown to some extreme effect at 2:24, 2:45, and 2:52... Now if Chavez throws shots like those against Mayweather Jr I think he would be slowed down.. Mayweather likes to go into that position when his opponents crowd him, or he goes into that position and looks to counter with left hooks, or cover up for right hands to the head..

    Check the vid..

    If Chavez watched this vid he would have at least part of an offensive answer to Floyd Mayweather Jr.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S_YYhI-cA4
     
  4. warchild

    warchild Member Full Member

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    Assuming that all of these matches take place at 140 lbs., where all of these fighters fought at one time....

    Chavez stops Hatton inside of 10 rounds no problem....Hatton relies too much on toughness, which would be a non-factor against Chavez.

    Chavez stops Cotto inside of 10 rounds, with Cotto doing pretty well, but getting beat up too much, getting caught, and ultimately getting stopped.

    Chavez wins a decision against Mayweather, with the deciding factor being that Mayweather, suprisingly not able to out-box Chavez, attempts to win rounds by moving during the second half of the fight, which only makes matters worse, as an undaunted Chavez moves forward picking off shots with his gloves and staying busy.

    All of these fighters would stand a chance of beating Chavez, but stylewise....Cotto fares the best because he'd get Chavez' respect with some solid shots early on, Hatton gets pummeled when he runs into a brick wall, and Mayweather runs into problems when he finds that Chavez can land on him much more than he thought and that plan B isn't really a plan at all.
     
  5. omega dega Doom

    omega dega Doom New Member Full Member

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    LOL, Meldrick taylor was way faster then PBF and he threw tons of combo's unlike PBF and chavez got to him repeatly in 12 rounds! Chavez would KO him within 11 rounds for sure!:bbb
     
  6. digiram

    digiram Active Member Full Member

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    That shot's also an invitation for a counter left hook or right hand(if he's using the elbow to parry), and PBF is quick enough to land it, unlinke Snr.
     
  7. digiram

    digiram Active Member Full Member

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    Taylor also had greater defense and reflexes as well right?? :patsch

    I think the fight goes 12 rounds, and Chavez takes it b/c he's the agressor although the fight could go either way.
     
  8. omega dega Doom

    omega dega Doom New Member Full Member

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    his superior speed and agressive offense was his superior defense dufus!:roll: Fighters are suppose to "fight" not play "peek-a-boo" or "hide and seek" or the worst style yet "Tag" :nono :roll:
     
  9. omega dega Doom

    omega dega Doom New Member Full Member

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    amen!:happy
     
  10. Sonny Carson

    Sonny Carson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think people are forgetting that Chavez didn't have the footwork to cut off the ring Castillo did. He cut off the ring against Stevie Johnston and Floyd. When Whitaker and Taylor were using there legs and hand speed Chavez had a tough time. Manny Stewerd also said that "Chavez didn't have the footwork to cut off the ring. Chavez was a greater fighter than Castillo but he didn't have his skill of cutting off the ring against quicker guy's.
     
  11. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There was no need to cut the ring off on Taylor, Taylor was right there in his face exhibiting a whirlwind of activity. He wasn't running.

    Whitaker had unconventional mobility being close (but just out of range) the whole fight. Put Castillo in with Pea and its Pea-Ramirez II all over again.
     
  12. Sonny Carson

    Sonny Carson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ramirez had trouble catching Ray Mancini so leave him out of this.
     
  13. Biggame

    Biggame Active Member Full Member

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    I don't understand why ppl are so obsessed w/the the 1st Castillo fight as if there wasn't a 2nd one! Floyd was injured before, and during the fight and still won. The 2nd fight was a very easy fight for Floyd, but you guys never bring that up.

    You guys also seems to still be stuck on Floyd's fights at 147lbs and up where he's fighting much bigger guys. Between 130lbs-140lbs Floyd was a monster w/lighting speed, and good pop. He threw more punches, and used his jab more. IMO he'd easily outbox Chavez who had problems w/boxers, and guys w/good footwork would have a ton of them w/Floyd. He was blessed by Steel in his fight w/Taylor, and he lost to Pea(not officially) Both these guys had speed, good movement w/the exception of Taylor once he stopped moving he was an easy target. One thing that should be noted...Taylor was easy to hit, and not the smartest guy inside the ring yet he took Chavez to the limit w/just speed before both those things caught up w/him. Pea was not that offensive that fight, but used his superior footwork, speed and defense to control the fight(Jabs) and keep Chavez at a distance and in check and all this is w/no power! At 130-140lbs Floyd didn't lack speed, or power. His defense is/was superior, along w/his footwork, and movement. I'm sry folks if this hurts, but Chavez never had good footwork, and he wasn't that great at caughting off the ring against Pea at all. Trying to cut off the ring against Floyd would be the same thing, except there be punches w/more power coming at him, and counters he wouldn't even see coming. Floyd fights excellent off the ropes, and in the pocket. He's a highly intellegent fighter, and plays no games when the bell rings.

    I see Chavez cut and swollen up from accumulative damage trying catch up to Floyd. He'd be outlanded 3-1 against Floyd easily. Also...Floyd wouldn't allow himself to be in Taylor's situations(to smart), and he would be more offensive, and not be in Pea's situation at the end of thier fight by landing more telling and affective shots!

    Floyd by UD!!!